D & D on the Straight Dope setup thread. (In Middle Earth FA63)

Ghân’s been thinking about his Magnifying Glass treasure. The extra level of Detect is OK, but the extra ID (DM, this will help with Identify, won’t it?) should go to Deor. :slight_smile:
So I’ll post that decision in the main thread, and trust you jolly pleasant chaps will see me right next time there’s loot!

[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir]
Sounds like the King may need the equivalent of Alan Greenspan before too long…
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I forgot to mention, there is also a large baby boom occurring. There are a lot of empty lands and much more hope in the future. Empty lands & Hope = homesteaders and large families. Hobbits of course and even Dwarves are having populations booms.

[QUOTE=CatInASuit]
What Exit?: When you set up the next thread can you add the role call, interesting NPCs & animals and other details like that at the front as well.

It means that anyone who starts reading the thread from scratch knows who is playing and I find it really useful as well.
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This is an excellent idea. I will endeavor to do so.

[QUOTE=Malacandra]
Of course. That will roughly halve an Orc’s chance of hitting me in combat. :slight_smile:
Well, typically you’d have started young doing “Sorceror’s Apprentice”-type tasks, i.e. pretty much all the grunt labour about the senior wizard’s place for the privilege of getting maybe an hour’s instruction after supper, that being all your feeble brain was capable of carrying. Then after you’d served a fourteen-year apprenticeship you’d get kicked out into the big wide world with about four spells to your name and enough money to dress decently.
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That is about right, but he served an amazing short apprenticeship. He started young at age 10 and completed it well at age 20. In fact that is why Theogrim was here, to celebrate his youngest brother’s promotion to journeyman mage.

[QUOTE=glee]
Ghân’s been thinking about his Magnifying Glass treasure. The extra level of Detect is OK, but the extra ID (DM, this will help with Identify, won’t it?) should go to Deor. :slight_smile:
So I’ll post that decision in the main thread, and trust you jolly pleasant chaps will see me right next time there’s loot!
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That is most generous of you, however, you can just loan it to him as needed. Whoever is casting the detection or ID spell could just use it. This would also hold true later when the Cleric joins you and later yet when Gil-Gandel begins casting spells and using legend lore.

[QUOTE=CatInASuit]
What Exit?: When you set up the next thread can you add the role call, interesting NPCs & animals and other details like that at the front as well.

It means that ayone who starts reading the thread from scratch knows who is playing and I find it really useful as well.
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Seconded. Very handy to have (although I also printed it out).

[QUOTE=What Exit?]

That is most generous of you, however, you can just loan it to him as needed. Whoever is casting the detection or ID spell could just use it. This would also hold true later when the Cleric joins you and later yet when Gil-Gandel begins casting spells and using legend lore.
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Okey-dokey!

I will have a few days pass as intelligence is gathered and preparations are made.

Caramir meets with you about once a day for the next 3 days.

How many people needed to buy stuff or find stuff?

I took care of some of this in the game thread.

So can I spend the next three days training and what not, improve my ability to hit with my chosen weapons etc?

Also, I don’t think I need to buy anything, but once again if there is anything the party needs let me know.

Oh, I do want to get a portable shelter of some sort for the party. Anyone know what I should be looking for?

[QUOTE=NAF1138]
…Oh, I do want to get a portable shelter of some sort for the party. Anyone know what I should be looking for?
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A nice, big, light campaign tent, perhaps of Elven-make? Dunno.

[QUOTE=NAF1138]
So can I spend the next three days training and what not, improve my ability to hit with my chosen weapons etc?

Also, I don’t think I need to buy anything, but once again if there is anything the party needs let me know.

Oh, I do want to get a portable shelter of some sort for the party. Anyone know what I should be looking for?
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I don’t have a good answer to that, except a belief that a portable shelter makes it easier to be seen, tougher to set and break camp and harder to keep watch and alert people.

I feel like I am missing something. Other than a Daern’s instant Fortress (no way those are available here) I cannot recall another portable shelter being used that was not a war wagon or boat.

Maybe I’m reading it wrong, but I would think tent = portable shelter. Basic camping supplies to protect from the elements, something the fellowship did not have (good thing it didn’t rain much, else they’d all have been fighting the common cold along with the Uruk-Hai).

How much detail do you want on our field packing, What Exit?? Do we need to get down to detail about flint and tinder, bedroll, x days of rations? My preference was never to micromanage that stuff, and introduce difficulties as ‘plot devices’ (i.e. despite your best efforts, raccoons still got to your rations or you lost your bedroll when your canoe tipped and it was not securely fastened).

[QUOTE=D_Odds]
Maybe I’m reading it wrong, but I would think tent = portable shelter. Basic camping supplies to protect from the elements, something the fellowship did not have (good thing it didn’t rain much, else they’d all have been fighting the common cold along with the Uruk-Hai).

How much detail do you want on our field packing, What Exit?? Do we need to get down to detail about flint and tinder, bedroll, x days of rations? My preference was never to micromanage that stuff, and introduce difficulties as ‘plot devices’ (i.e. despite your best efforts, raccoons still got to your rations or you lost your bedroll when your canoe tipped and it was not securely fastened).
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I agree with D_Odds that micro-managing takes time away from roleplaying.

How about if pack bedrolls and some equivalent of a tarpaulin or two. The horses can carry them.
If there’s a downpour, at least we could set up a simple dry shelter. There would still be visibility for guards and it wouldn’t take too long to roll them up…

What Exit?, you need to work on your fantasies…

[QUOTE=glee]
I agree with D_Odds that micro-managing takes time away from roleplaying.

How about if pack bedrolls and some equivalent of a tarpaulin or two. The horses can carry them.
If there’s a downpour, at least we could set up a simple dry shelter. There would still be visibility for guards and it wouldn’t take too long to roll them up…
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Agreed. I do not want to micromanage this part at all.

[QUOTE=D_Odds]
What Exit?, you need to work on your fantasies…
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You are just in the wrong city. Minas Tirith is almost as much a military complex as a city, actually maybe it is more of one. Further, there really are Paladin types all through the city staff and that staff is energized by an extremely charismatic benevolent dictator and his even more charismatic Queen. Half the soldiers would gladly give their life to save the Queen. It is not quite a normal place.

People in Minas Tirith are inspired to be good and dedicated. The fact that the threat of total annihilation is now gone after a millennium of decay and that the economy is booming hugely after centuries of stagnation does much to buoy popular support to levels unheard of in the real world. While Aragorn & Arwen live, no shadow of even the smallest sort will fall on Minas Tirith.

Now even Osgiliath would have been more to your liking. That is actually the larger city, but it will takes decades before the population rises to the levels once seen. There is a very large itinerant work force of labor rebuilding. Some will stay and some will go and all that comes with such concepts should be expected.

What Exit?: I have just sent you a copy of Mulligan Took at 4th.

I will also be looking to replenish my sling bullets and trail rations.

[QUOTE=CatInASuit]
What Exit?: I have just sent you a copy of Mulligan Took at 4th.

I will also be looking to replenish my sling bullets and trail rations.
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I’ll look for it. Bullets are cheap. 5cp per or 5sp for silver bullets. Did you note the ones that Merry gave you?
Stones are free. :wink:

Trail Rations will be provided by Gondor. No fear there.

[QUOTE=What Exit?]
Half the soldiers would gladly give their life to save the Queen.
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How about the other half?

If that isn’t a recipe for organized crime, graft, and a large influx of those working the oldest profession, I don’t know what is. Big Brother must really be watching. Even Sauron wasn’t this good.

Maybe I should have been chaotic neutral (and had a name ending in a vowel, with a cute nickname). This town is just one big employment opportunity!

[QUOTE=D_Odds]
How about the other half?

If that isn’t a recipe for organized crime, graft, and a large influx of those working the oldest profession, I don’t know what is. Big Brother must really be watching. Even Sauron wasn’t this good.

Maybe I should have been chaotic neutral (and had a name ending in a vowel, with a cute nickname). This town is just one big employment opportunity!
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Right Minas Tirith is the impossible city, might as well be serving on the Enterprise. The city is 99% good and tending probably 98% LG.

Osgiliath is ripe for corruption, but so many of the labor supes are Dwarves that it is only is the strictly human areas that things get interesting. Still very little graft to be found. Give it some time.

I am reasonably sure that in the still large areas of abandoned housing in Osgiliath the oldest profession is being well plied. However as a fine upstanding person that wishing to keep as true as possible to the Professor’s vision, we will see little of that seedy side of the city in the game thread.

[QUOTE=What Exit?]
Trail Rations will be provided by Gondor. No fear there.
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Do we have enough portage to carry trail rations for a hobbit?

[QUOTE=What Exit?]

Minas Tirith is almost as much a military complex as a city, actually maybe it is more of one. Further, there really are Paladin types all through the city staff and that staff is energized by an extremely charismatic benevolent dictator and his even more charismatic Queen. Half the soldiers would gladly give their life to save the Queen. It is not quite a normal place.

People in Minas Tirith are inspired to be good and dedicated. The fact that the threat of total annihilation is now gone after a millennium of decay and that the economy is booming hugely after centuries of stagnation does much to buoy popular support to levels unheard of in the real world. While Aragorn & Arwen live, no shadow of even the smallest sort will fall on Minas Tirith.

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I agree completely with this. The shadow of Evil, appearing over thousands of years, has been completely lifted.
Good has triumphed (at least in the city) and there is a wonderful atmosphere.
The King has returned!

[QUOTE=D_Odds]
Do we have enough portage to carry trail rations for a hobbit?
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Amazingly Hobbits can go to third rations (normal human consumption) for very long periods.

[QUOTE=What Exit?]
Amazingly Hobbits can go to third rations (normal human consumption) for very long periods.
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But just in case, how big a supply wagon can our mounts pull? :smiley: :smack: