D & D on the Straight Dope setup thread. (In Middle Earth FA63)

But do you call her Luthien? And does she call you Beren?

No, now I need to correct a small point of ignorance, because you have put too much weight on “weakness” and not enough on “corruption”. Morgoth wanted servants, but he couldn’t turn Elves into servants without damaging them badly. When Men first appeared in Middle-Earth, the kindly Elves were filled with dismay at how easily these new Children of Eru sickened and died. Don’t forget that one host of the Noldor crossed from Aman into the eastern lands by way of the Arctic ice, surviving largely on bloody-mindedness; and it took several Balrogs to bring down Feanor, and Fingolfin inflicted some nasty wounds on Morgoth himself in one-on-one combat.

Elves aren’t bad in standard D&D - that point of Dex, and the hit bonuses and other standard abilities, make up for the lost point of Con. Their principal weakness is that as written Raise Dead and Resurrection don’t work on them (a rod of resurrection will, but that gets expensive). But Quendi? Their main weakness appears to be predestination; otherwise, they kick ass and delegate name-taking to underlings. :smiley:

These are a bit different from my game:

  • it takes a day and night of rest to regain 1 hp
  • the Ranger damage bonus is only on melee (with 2 arrows per round, that’s a big bonus!)

So the same hobbit that didn’t want to fight the orcs at all in the first place, is now sneaking alone into a den of them?! And forget’s that he’s not a spider-hobbit, and falls into the flour? And is about to be captured by orcs?!!?

This is getting good!

We have an audience! Yay!

Smile, everybody!

You’re obviously not seeing me at my best :frowning:

It happens to the best of us.
I remember sneaking into a dragon’s lair with a thief and failing a 99% roll. :eek:

And I remember myself and a fellow party member deliberately getting ourselves into a ritual joust to decide a war, and having to fake a convincing fight despite neither of us having the first clue how to joust…

Ah, but did the crowd sing ‘We will Rock you’?! :smiley:

No, but one of them did later write a treatise on the dreaded Elven jousting technique, which was mystifying to the casual viewer, what with entailing plodding along very slowly looking as though they were going to drop the lance, and crying “Woe! Woe!” :wink: to strike dread into the heart of the enemy.

Hmmm. I must’ve missed that movie.

I’ll be out of town and away from the keyboard from early Friday to late Sunday. I ask that our gallant Elf-captain or crafty Wose-lieutenant guide Thoroncir in my absence, in such a way as not to embarrass him in the eyes of the fair Gilraen, er, Renee. Thanks, guys.

Sorry but the way I look at it is each 10’ you travel, you had a 22% chance of failure, you needed to travel at least 30’+ That was an overall 88% chance of failure. Bad odds. You failed on the second roll. Only a little early, probably to your favor.

This is the one major weakness in a Hobbit Thief, they are very bad at climbing walls. I consider climbing walls dangerous with the normal 90%+ chances that most thieves have.

Actually the chance is just over a third if I needed to do 40’

4 successes in a row = 0.780.780.78*0.78 = 37%

I thought it was worth the risk, considering I was still invisible, so the odds of what occured if I failed were still not too bad.

I like your thinking, Cat.

“Spider-Hobbit, Spider-Hobbit, does whatever a spider can…”

What?

Come on, what kind of meat shield do you call yourself? You’re meant to stop those with your fair flesh and blood, so they don’t hit she who is in no way, shape or form a Princess. :smiley:

Yeah, leave getting the NPCs skewered (in a non-alignment compromising way) to me!

I assure you I’m mortified she was put at risk. Why she was following so close behind? The young woman Thoroncir loves is smart enough not to go needlessly in harm’s way.

Well, we’re indoors, so arrows probably need to be fired in a pretty flat trajectory. She’d have to be way back there to be really safe.