Danielinthewolvesden and yosemitebabe can kiss my ass

This post comes from Employer drug testing.

I’m a very smart guy. More to the point, I’m smarter than you are. I have a better grasp of logic and can construct and understand complex logical arguments. Perhaps I’m arrogant. It’s very tempting to be arrogant towards people such as yourselves, who seem to have actual contempt for someone that can actually think his way out of a wet paper bag.

I do not speak for everyone. I speak for myself. I express myself in declarative sentences (go look it up). I declare my position, my premises and the steps leading to a logical conclusion. You both do exactly the same thing (if you lack the intellectual capacity to read your own posts, I will be happy to quote sufficient examples and spell all this out in words of one syllable).
yosemitebabe:

yosemitebabe, I might try to conceal my arrogance if you were making even the slightest effort to to conceal your stupidity.

As far as not having a clear grasp of logic, I was not directly referring to you, but if the shoe fits, wear it.

Please at least make a small effort to get your facts right. In the gun control thread Goodie, Another gun debate… I demanded not to be assumed an idiot because I disagreed with a position, a completely different proposition than demanding to be seen as intelligent.
Danielinthewolvesden:

Obviously you’re unable to actually follow a simple argument. If you willingly submit to unnecessary drug testing, I claim you’re not reasonable not because you disagree with me, but because you are acting contrary to your own self-interest.

Second, you’re unable to actually read. yosemitebabe who brought up slavery, not me. I said that the compulsion to test was contrary to my liberty; liberty is a much broader concept that merely lack of slavery. Neither have I used the argument about sexual activity (although it’s a good one). How did I manage to work slavery in there? I didn’t; if you were able to read you would have seen that your erstwhile ally worked it in there. It is the height of gross stupidity for one side of a to make a hyperbolic argument and then use that statement to accuse the other side of hyperbole.

Unless you’re a total idiot, and total idiots are rare, you can understand that defending myself against an infringement of my liberty is not the same as hyperbolically insisting that another holocaust is right around the corner.

And like yosemitebabe, I never said you don’t have a clear grasp of logic. But again, if the shoe fits, wear it.
I really can’t come to any other conclusion that the both of you are seriously mentally deficient. I have come to this conclusion not because you disagree with me, but because, as I have demonstrated, you appear to lack the ability to read, the ability to comprehend a simple logical argument, and an inability to tell the difference between an argument and an ad hominem attack.

I have consistently given the two of you the benefit of the doubt in this debate, assuming (apparently falsely) that you were not idiots merely because we disagreed. I have explained and defended my positions. I have refrained from direct personal attacks. I’m tiring of your attacks. I’m unable to decide if you cannot comprehend my arguments, cannot refute them, or you’re just complete assholes who prefer insults to rational debate. Either way, you’re becoming irritating and tiresome.

I’m posting this message in the Pit because I do understand that your level of intelligence has no more relevance to the actual drug testing argument than does your perception of my arrogance.

Joe, you seem to have a serious issue with confirming your intelligence.

If I was in an arguement and someone said “I’m smarter than you” I’d be less likely to consider their arguement properly than if they had made their point reasonably.

Something like that makes you sound pompus and arrogant.

line like this one would make me laugh at you if you said something like this to me IRL.

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“I express myself in declarative sentences (go look it up).”

Perhaps you should look it up considering that you write…

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“yosemitebabe who brought up slavery, not me.”

Most declarative sentences possess a verb.

Let’s continue.

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“I really can’t come to any other conclusion that the both of you are seriously mentally deficient.”

You need to insert “than” into this sentence.

To answer the question that could be on the tip of your tongue right now, let me say that no, I am not usually a crank about spelling and grammar.

If you are going to start a thread, however, whose initial sentences are, “I’m a very smart guy. More to the point, I’m smarter than you are.”, then please have the courtesy to use the Preview option.

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“I declare my position, my premises and the steps leading to a logical conclusion.”

This seems to be quite weird given that your handle is from the Illuminatus Trilogy, canonized for its irreverant and tongue in cheek attack on logic.

I have found that people who feel the need to point this out, usually aren’t. :rolleyes:

Obviously my contributions are not welcome here. Every time I argue, I’m subjected to personal attacks and my intelligence insulted. I will submit to the obvious will of the community and refrain from participation here.

This is not a pity post; I will not lurk in a vain hope that some people might beg me to come back (I’m certain I shall receive none). You have spoken, I am leaving.

Moderators or administrators, please cancel my account.

Um, Diane, Joe Malik was driven to point that out by a couple of people who don’t seem to grasp logical arguments.

I’ve read his posts, and fall on my face in awe of his superior logical argumentative abilities.

I too have read Illuminatus. I think it did serious damage to my fragile psyche.

Dammit, assholes, now see what you’ve done? You’ve driven off one of the great logical minds of the SDMB.

So much for fighting ignorance.

I think someone should write an epic poem about this tragic loss.

Cool! I finally have a Pit thread named after me! (Well, I have to share it with Daniel…)

I merely quote something from Joe, and comment that it seems quite obviously arrogant, and I get this?!? How bizarre. Many of us are going to get “insulted” on this board, especially when hashing things out on a GD thread. It comes with the territory. How many of us immediately go out and start a Pit thread as soon as someone looks crosseyed at us? Give me a break.

This has got to be the most bizarre thing I’ve ever seen. Almost as bizarre as someone “demanding” that we all know how smart they are.

agisofia:

You’re kidding, right? And the fact that JM started this thread in the first place, and then totally overreacted when the quite predictable thing happened (this IS the Pit, you know) he ups and leaves? And it’s all our fault? Please.

No, sorry, yosemite. agisofia is correct; we’ve all been stunned and blinded by the absolute brilliance that is Joe Malik. All we had to do was examine his arguments are realize that we were looking at a man who was more intelligent than Marilyn Vos Savant, than Joel Achenbach, maybe even more inteliigent than Cecil himself. Why, Joe’s usage of logic was a form that the Vulcans themselves could learn from, a cool steel grip of cold thought that absolutely proved his truth and intelligence to all who surveyed.

Once, we basked in the brilliance that was Joe Malik. But some of us, the less wise of us, scorned him, taunted him, even- God curse their names- dared to differ with him, and Joe realized that this website was not the place of adulating and adoring fans and suck-ups that he thought it was. And so, scorned by those who were obviously his inferiors, Joe has left us to go out in search of new fields, new pastures, new places that will immediately grasp the wisdom, the mercy, the awe-inspiring comprehension of all forms of argument that is Joe Malik. Prophecies will be fulfilled, lions shall lay down with lambs, and Joe Malik will lead the new generation into the fields of milk and honey. But not here at the Straight Dope; no, for our sins, for our pride in doubting him, we shall be forever Malik-less, and there shall be much gnashing of teeth in the threads to come.

As the Lord sayeth to Adam and Eve when they were sent from the Garden of Eden: “Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.”

Let me sum this up, shall I?

“WAAAAHHH, WAAAHHHH, WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH, no one listens to me! I am too smart! You don’t agree with me, so now I hate you! I’m leaving now! WWWWAAAAAAHHHHH!”

Is that about right?

Don’t be such a thin-skinned pussy, Joe.

Damn, I was all set to flame Joe’s ass (and I am suprised he used the word “ass”, I thought he would have used 'arse" or “buttocks”, or something else pretentious), but then I read his post, and there is no-way I can improve on it. I am astounded, amazed & (not so secretly) pleased. Thanks Joe, you said it all, for me. Please don’t go, we need you around for the amusement factor.

John: Great post, dude. :cool:

Yosemitebabe: I hope this is the begining of a long friendship.

Joe - I don’t know you from a hole in the ground. I have seen one or two of your posts but have absolutely no opinion of you one way or another. I simply don’t know you enough to make that judgment.

My comment to you was drawn only from your words posted in this thread. I read your words and my opinion drawn was that you feel that you are intellectually above the members of this board. Your words screamed arrogance and pompous attitude. If that is not how you wanted to come across, maybe you should chose your words a little more carefully.

When I stated that those who feel the need to announce their intelligence are usually anything but, I was stating from experience. If you are intelligent, people will notice. If you have to tell them you are, then obviously they are not seeing the same thing as you. I stand by this statement as much as I did when I first posted it.

Speaking only for myself, I don’t care if you leave the board or stay. If you have something to offer, I would hope that you stick around. If your skin isn’t thick enough to repel unfavorable statements made toward you, then maybe this isn’t the place for you. If you stay and continue to post the type of things in your OP, expect the backlash.

agi - Why don’t the two of you get a room. Oh, and don’t forget the tissue.

Oh my gosh. I’m having a “bonding moment” with Daniel! Who would have thought!

John - what a hoot you are!

Forgive them, Joe Malik, for they know not what they do.

I think we should all bow our heads for a moment and think about what we’ve lost. No longer will the bright, shining, light of Joe Malik show us the way. We are truly damned:(

BTW, John, thankyou for giving me a much needed laugh. I’m still smirking 5 minutes after reading your post.

Joe’s been a complete, utter dickhead. He’s been unable to provide any sort of logical argument, and when he’s told this, he rants about “getting personal insults”.

No big loss, in my opinion. He contributed less-than-nothing and whined about it when his negative contributions were pointed out to be mere idiocy.

Good riddance, Joe, you jar of spoiled semen.

Spoofe, I’m surprised at you. You read the other thread, didn’t you? You saw Joe’s logical, coherent arguments, and how Danny and yosemitebabe refused to directly address them, instead bringing in side issues.

Both Joe and myself have been driven to exasperation trying to get these two morons to see logic.

Unfortunately, Joe’s means of expressing that exasperation were less than constructive.

(see, Dannyboy, I can use big words. I don’t need an adult to help me. I didn’t even need a dictionary for this post. :p)

Agi, I’ve gone through that thread, yes. I’ve also been heavily involved with the second link Joe quoted, the Gun Control thread in GD.

In that thread, he presented zero facts, zero logical argument, and whenever he was disproven, he whined incessently about “personal attacks” and failed to acknowledge the questions posed before him. In short, he was a ranting, raving lunatic who was pissing everyone off.

In the drug testing thread, he ignored the fact that employers are responsible for the actions of their employees while on the job. He spouted liberal “I can do whatever the hell I want” propaganda. In short, he was a ranting, raving lunatic who was pissing everyone off.

He can go swallow some pop rocks and soda and explode for all I care. He’s “mentally deficient” moron.

That reminds me, I haven’t gone over to Snopes for awhile…