So to get rid of some eyesores, he needed to make himself so feared that someone would rather impale his eyeball on a big spike rather than say his name out loud? That doesn’t strike you as a little unnecessary?
I guess it’s being true to comic book logic (like the time the Fixer and Mentallo broke into Shield headquarters so that they could mind control the Thing so that they could break into the Baxter building so that they could steal Dr Doom’s time machine so that they could bring Deathlok from the future so that they could use him in their scheme to mind control Jimmy Carter).
In this show, is it pretty much stated that the Avengers destruction ruined Hell’s Kitchen? I mean, it was bad when Murdoch and Nelson were growing up, wasn’t it?
Yeah, but in between it’s assumed it had been gentrified, though that part isn’t mentioned. I think talking too much about that would have spoiled the atmosphere. It’s an alternate history anyway, one where Captain America and Hydra fought during WW2 and it’s widely known, so I will give them some latitude about that.
He wanted to turn Hell’s Kitchen into his own little fiefdom but that was just the surface. His real goal was to take control of the underworld and he basically did it.
It was bad, but the way I took it was when Murdoch and Nelson were growing up, it sucked but it wasn’t that dangerous. There’s a difference between a poor place and a place that’s out and out dangerous.
I started feeling better about Fisk once I figured out who Denofrio was! I hadn’t realized he was from Full Metal Jacket, one of my favorite movies.
Matt Murdock - Charlie Cox - has the best ass. Oh my god. I was looking forward to the Daredevil suit and then was disappointed because it does not show off his ass as well as his previous clothes did. Plus the little devil horns are ridiculous.
P.S. I also hate the stupid dumbshit raccoon. HATED HIM. If I never see stupid Rocket again it will be a day too soon.
I thought he genuinely wanted to improve Hell’s Kitchen and controlling the underworld was just a means to that end. He saw his dad fail gloriously trying to do it through politics. So Wilson tried to do it the only other way he knew, which was not exactly above board.
It took me an embarrassingly long time to figure out why Fisk looked so much like Gomer Pyle.
I hope they show, at some point, how Fisk became so powerful to begin with.
I agree. I think he genuinely wanted to improve things in Hell’s Kitchen but wanted it to match his vision. I do think a failing of the show was that they didn’t give us a clearer idea as to what Fisk’s vision was and why he wanted to create it. He wanted it shiny, new and affluent one can imagine–but why? I think a strong contrast between him and Matt and Foggy would have been Fisk cares about the place–location, architecture, etc (it’s a little bit there by way of the art and art dealer) while our heroes care about the people.
Yes. How does little fat kid from a poor family become an international traveler who speaks Chinese and has legitimate powerful underworld contacts.?
It seems pretty obvious to me that all the talk of making a better Hell’s Kitchen was bunk — a conflicted man’s attempt to convince himself “that I’m not a monster like my father.” But he is, as he admitted and embraced in his “good samaritan” monologue in the finale. The rationalizations fell away and he accepted his identity as a man who wanted power purely for its own sake.
Here’s one you’ll love: Marvel still hasn’t given us a movie starring a person of color or a woman. But they’ve already given us *three *movies starring blonde guys named Chris.
This is what I meant earlier in this thread that he was such a great villain that everyone bought into his bullshit. I think he wanted power and control and the only thing he loved was the Art dealer. To me, turning Hell’s Kitchen into a Billionaire’s Wonderland was the means to the end not the other way around.