I’ve noticed the “Women like tall men” thing, and frankly I find it baffling. I say this as a woman who is 5’5 - give me a man 5’8 and shorter. I’m much more likely to notice that a man is too tall than too short. Who wants to stare up their date’s nose, anyway?
The love of my young life was 5’4, and it sure was lovely getting to look him right in the eyes all the time.
Remember that episode of Buffy where Jonathan became suave? Yeah, he looked hot.
Is this really true? I have no problem with tall women, I just never really bothered to approach them since I assumed it would be a waste of time. If they really don’t care about height, then I may have to switch strategies.
Eww! :eek:
“This is indeed a disturbing universe.” -James Earl Jones
Regarding point #2: I remember there was a thread a while back started by a woman who asked if guys really care about women’s breast size. As I recall, only 1 guy admitted at all to having such a preference. I have a strong suspicion that’s not a very representative sample size, and a similar analogy would hold well for this thread.
Yep, at least among my circle of friends. Now, that doesn’t mean that every tall woman likes shorter men, but as I said - I’m tall(ish) and don’t mind too much about height and I know more than one woman who felt the same but was never approached by shorter men (including some short men that they really liked and would have dated if asked but…they were afraid if they asked him out he would say no because he didn’t like tall women. :smack:)
I think perhaps the assumption is that every woman wants a man who’s taller than she is, but lots of us who are taller don’t much care.
And I really have noticed what I consider to be a bizarre demand by very short women that their men be quite tall.
My friend who was 6’3" prefered if a guy was at least 5’10" which is kind of tall, but still 5 inches shorter than she is, ya know?
I like short guys just fine. Just date women that are in to shorter guys or don’t care about that. There’s a million other things you can improve easier that will matter more anyway - hygiene, wealth, clothes, health/build, manners/personality, etc. And it will help of course if you yourself aren’t picky about womens’ height.
Don’t get the surgery. You’re just going to end up looking like Kermit the Frog.
Try to make a lot of money and don’t be subtle about showing it off. Lots of women who would reject a guy because of his height would also carefully reconsider if they found out he was a millionaire.
If getting rich doesn’t get you in with the ladies, then hey, at least you’re rich.
5 foot 4 doesn’t really sound all that short to me. Don’t know what else to say.
Lots of good advice here. Learn to dress well and be confident, get in fairly decent shape if you can, and learn to flirt. Women really aren’t as visually oriented as men, for the most part, and charm goes a long way.
I’m a 5’4" guy, and I’m happily married. Before I was married I had a pretty decent dating life. So perhaps what I have to say will be of value.
It is an unfortunate fact that the man’s height is important to many women in the dating pool. Therefore you will be immediately rejected by a substantial fraction of women. Don’t let this discourage you. There are plenty of other women out there who are not put off by your height. As soon as you realize that a woman is in the “height is important” class, move on.
As others in this thread have indicated, confidence is extremely important. Not arrogance, confidence. What this means is that you give off the air that whatever happens to you in life, you can handle it. And that if a woman doesn’t like you for whatever reason, it’s no big deal. Another woman WILL like you.
Most online dating sites make such a big deal of height, putting it right at the top of the person’s profile. They make it easy to filter by height. I think that put me at a disadvantage. I always did better in real-life, one-on-one meetings. In those situations the quality of my personality could be expressed, and women were given the opportunity to see past my height.
In the end it’s still a numbers game. The more opportunties you take to show a woman that you’re a great guy worth dating, the more the chance that you’ll find one that wants to give you a try. There were periods when I had to make a LOT of tries before I got one good date out of it.
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Not representative, but probably not off the mark. For some guys breast size is a vital consideration in picking a woman, but for most guys it is not. This does not mean men are more fair-minded than women, rather I think people are focusing in the wrong metric. For men the vital factor is the waist-to-hip ration in a woman. It’s not talked about a whole lot, but there it is.
There was a scientific show about dating on British television recently that tested various ideas about attraction. They had a number experts with various theories about what causes attraction and they had a big batch of single British men and women gathered together to put them to the test. They had the people sit across from one another for one minute without talking each and secretly report the attractiveness of the person across from them. Then they allowed the people to talk for a few minutes again while measuring attractiveness. The results blew away the scientists expectations. None of the theories being bandied about payed off. Not facial similarity, not personality compatibility (as determined by personality tests the subjects took beforehand,) nothing. Furthermore, there was no significant change in attractiveness when people were allowed to talk as opposed to when they looked at each other silently.
The only two things that correlated to being found attractive were height in men and waist-to-hip ratio in women. One of the people conducting the study went so far as to say that if you are a man you should not bother about going to the gym, driving a nice car or wearing nice clothes. You should just be tall. True, for the most part, but not useful advice.
All I can say is just be yourself. Be proud of who you are and be willing to find the exception to the rule who thinks that short guys aren’t automatically eliminated from consideration.
A debate about the height of Chuck Norris:
Of course, this debate only continues because Chuck allows it.
ETA: He’s probably 5’7" or 5’8".