Democrats who may run if Hillary is indicted or drops out

Honest people with clearance have already been over every charge that’s been thrown at Clinton. And they found nothing to charge her for.

The obvious conclusion is she didn’t break any laws. But equally obviously, there are people who won’t accept that conclusion. So they keep saying that Clinton must have committed top secret classified crimes.

Indeed, and a lot of what the right wing media is going with are likely the same sources that gave The New York Times a black eye when their promised criminal charges were shown to be just pulled from nowhere and the paper had to back track.

So far I have the theory that Republican congress critters like Issa and former ones like Tom Delay had a conversation with those same sorry sources in the executive and they told them something similar like: “A few of us (there would be conservatives in the FBI too for sure) would like to indict Clinton, but there were clearly no nefarious intentions; and like in other cases in the past, just maybe a warning or note to the one that made a mistake. And we are now mostly investigating about how to prevent an issue like this in the future and to check if anyone that should not have gotten access to the emails did so.”

The Republicans just heard: “We would like to indict Clinton!!” and dumped only that misleading bit in the Republican echo chamber. Never mind that the FBI can not indict someone, only to recommend it, and it is more likely that there will be not even that.

To my mind the real question now is when / if the FBI will issue any sort of statement formally “clearing” Hillary from any wrong doing or recommending no charges or whatever and when such a statement will come - before or after the nomination is sewn up.

Then of course - what sort of followup will be forthcoming from the Republicans. (likely a statement vowing to impeach her should she win the election?)

I’ll say it won’t happen until after the election, so there can be no accusations of whitewashing. Meanwhile, it’s been tuned out as an issue and will be a non-factor.

Right. This thread is now as irrelevant as the “Trump’s collapse and Cruz’s inevitability” thread.

From what I’ve read, it should be done by the spring. But if they are going to take until after the election, then Clinton’s VP choice better be ready on Day 1, even if it’s a small chance. Predictit says 25% chance of charges. 1 in 4 is significant enough that the VP better not be some young guy with a thin resume.

Wishful thinking and partisanship. No way is it really that high.

Well, the liberal media says no chance, the conservative media says she’s screwed and the mainstream media isn’t willing to offer an opinion, so who the hell knows for sure? The only thing I do know is that Comey is as impartial as they come, so whatever he decides will be the right decision.

However, I still have to add one note in the right’s favor: the Democrats’ anger at Obama’s own inspector generals regarding leaks which are not flattering to the Clinton campaign. The appropriateness of the leaks aside, no one can accuse Obama’s own people of partisanship, so there’s a good chance what they’ve leaked is true. and when Democrats are campaigning against Obama administration figures, it can’t bode well.

It’s all you have left to hope for, so maybe we should just let you indulge that little daydream.

As I noted in previous discussions there were already several examples of people that also made huge mistakes regarding the handling of secrets, the issue of the intention of the people involved was a key one. And the intention item is usually directed to the secrets being transfered on purpose to enemies or for personal gain.

After all the huffing and puffing, I have not seen any of that regarding this issue, and that is a big reason why one can not be absolutely sure, but based on past history this looks like the right wing media fooled many people once again.

And there is a 100% chance that the Republicans will cry foul anyhow once the most likely outcome will be reported by Comey.

No, the fact is that already many of the leaks were demonstrated to be false.

As with many other “scandals” the typical case is that no matter how discredited many past items were the sources that should not be trusted are the ones that never correct or leave past “revelations” like that in their sites and then reuse them like if no counter information or debunkings were available already.

I wasn’t referring to anonymous sourcing, but administration inspectors general. These are pretty impartial people, but they’ve said enough damaging things about the issue that Clinton allies have felt the need to attack their integrity. Which is the same as attacking the President’s integrity since he appointed them and they answer directly to him and serve at his pleasure.

:rolleyes:

Unless they are reported as definitive by the inspectors general the leaks are only that, still coming from an anonymous source about early reports of the investigation, AFAIK what you refer about are the leaked letters pointing to yet again the already reported drone attacks.

Which is what I already said. A couple of inspector generals leaked information and Clinton allies are very unhappy about that.

And that does not contradict what was reported; again, I’m just saying that what I have seen so far is pointing to the likelihood that an indictment is not going to be recommended.

I see little evidence either way, and I suspect that Democrats are just as likely to mount a PR campaign against Comey even if he doesn’t indict, if his report is scathing enough.

They would have filed them already but they’re almost ready with those White Water charges and those have first dibs.

My prediction? The same people will still be claiming indictments are right around the corner eight years from now as Clinton winds down her second term.

Shouldn’t indicting her for whacking Vince Foster take top priority, what with it being a murder and all?

Except they’ll be predicting it about the next probable Democratic candidate instead of Hilary.

White Water … don’t you mean her connections to Walter White?

And the House Republicans will be holding their thirtieth or so Benghazi hearing.