You said you agreed with his sentiment. Correct? I showed you what his sentiment was. Correct? Did you in fact know what you were saying when you agreed with his sentiment? Had you bothered yourself to find out what it was you were agreeing with? Is your stance in agreement with his sentiment or not?
Not for me to judge. History will think of it as a comma.
Not a rebuttal. A metaphor. Meant to suggest that before you agree with someone it behooves you to find out exactly with what you are agreeing. If you care to be understood, that is.
Thanks. The penultimate paragraph referenced statements others have made concerning Der Trihs’ revelations about his high school experiences. I’m just playing shit-house psychologist when I say that maybe his behavior on this board is just a way for him to get “revenge” on the people who bullied him. Since he can’t get them, he attacks the “powerful” people anonymously. He has convinced himself that he is powerless to effect changes in real life and so, rather than attempt to actually do something about it, he stays hidden behind his keyboard and bitches about what’s wrong.
On other threads I have given examples about what I have done to try to correct situations that are wrong. I mentioned petitions, attending council meetings, writing to congressmen, working for politicians that you think can make a change, etc. He refused to ever respond. It appears that he is all talk, no action.
And as for my last paragraph: yeah, it was a little snarky and immature. But I liked to give him a little dig.
His ability to toy with the rules of this forum in such as a way as to post the most ridiculously inflammatory horseshit, while still managing to stay just on the side of what the mods will tolerate, is inconsistent with someone who is developmentally disabled or otherwise mentally incapable of comprehending subtlety in a social situation. His mental health is obviously questionable but his ability to comprehend (internet) social interactions is not.
Of course, the consolation is that he has to live with himself. He’s stated plenty of times that his life is barely worth living. He’s a miserable freak wallowing in his own freakish misery. That is his crime…it is also his punishment.
They merely address whether he has the courage of his convictions. He is in effect advocating that military personnel commit mutiny, or whatever the dry land equivalent is, yet he is unwilling to face the consequences of merely stating his views out loud in public. He is a chickenshit motherfucker. As to whether doing so would engender illegal activities on the part of bystanders, who is to say? Anyone who labels all who enlist in the armed services as *murdering scum *surely cannot complain if bystanders assume that over reaction is the order of the day.
If you want to disagree with what I’ve said, then quote it and argue it. Illustrate for all concerned what I said, and why it’s wrong.
if you just want to prick about with insinuation and strawmen, then by all means quote something he said in another post and claim it as belief, all the while ignoring something as clear cut as “He said he’d rather US troops died than the people of Iraq. Fuck it, I can agree with the sentiment.”. Don’t be too surprised though if I then point out (repeatedly, and at my leisure) just why you’re full of shit.
So anytime you’re ready, please illustrate how “He said he’d rather US troops died than the people of Iraq. Fuck it, I can agree with the sentiment.” is a metaphor for: “You agree that all armed services members in Iraq are murdering scum and deserve to die”
It is quite simple. You have mischaracterized his sentiment. Sanitized it, as it were. What you have stated is not his sentiment. It is the PG version of his sentiment.
You erred when you characterized his sentiment thusly. It might be your sentiment, but it is not his.
If you agree with your own sentiment, well congrats pard! That was a toughy, eh?
If you agree with his sentiment, you agree that all enlisted personnel in Iraq are murderers who deserve to die.
I wrote x. You claim y. I place x & y next to each other to demonstrate the difference, and your best defence is to excuse yourself by claiming I have mischaracterized? That’s not quite as sad as your last claim of a metaphor, but it’s close.
Just fuck off. Take a month or two to learn to either read or reason, whichever it is that you’re struggling with the most, then come back to actually argue and discuss what has been said.
And once more, purely because it amuses me to do so:
Me: “He said he’d rather US troops died than the people of Iraq. Fuck it, I can agree with the sentiment.”
You: “You agree that all armed services members in Iraq are murdering scum and deserve to die”
Do you have a point to make with the “Shock and Awe” link, RedFury, or are you just like one of those zealots who drives around a panel van mounted with pictures of aborted fetuses, simply for the shock value?
Yes, an ungodly number of people have died as a result of this fiasco of a war—which I’ve never supported—and I would like to see all of our troops pulled out of Iraq. How does the death of American soldiers (or wishing death upon them, which is, if you hadn’t noticed, the topic of this thread) help further that goal in the slightest? They aren’t mercenaries; they’re going to remain there until ordered to leave, which I’m sure most of them want to do as soon as possible.
Good. Then do so here. If you want to berate him, then here’s a perfect place to do so. Rip his claims to shreds, demonstrate his stupidity, go for it. That has fuck all to do with your previous statement that "I wish I could reach through the internet and communicate with Der Trish in a kinesthetic way.
This place really has lost its edge. A supposed goal of fighting ignorance with statements such as the above, or “say the same thing within arms reach of someone that can pop you like the pimple on a gnat’s ass you really are…Have I mentioned how much I’d enjoy meeting you face to face?”
Let me posit one possibility. If the death ratio was along the lines Der Trish said he supported, where 1 iraqi death < 1 coalition death, then over a year ago the US would have seen 20,000 deaths.
Is it possible that this war would have ended at that stage? Is it not easier to continue a war where your fatalities are a fraction of the true count. A little harder when it’s 50%.
I’m one of the people who see red, every time Trihs goes off about wanting to see American soldiers slaughtered, and I also count myself among the people who thinks he would love to run into this lowlife prick in a dark alley somewhere. My violent feelings persist until I actually imagine the encounter.
See, once I imagine meeting up with him, inevitably, I start to think about what he would look like. What he would come off as. What would I find when I found Der Trihs? I would probably find exactly the person I expect. I see Trihs as coming off in real life pretty much the way he comes off on these boards: a homely, beaten-down, miserable bastard, and crazy to boot. A born loser who would be as incapable of understanding the reason behind the beating he’d get as a deficient six month old puppy who just shit on the carpet. I see him as that punk karate kid from Smokin’ Aces all growed up and learned to spell (If you haven’t seen Smokin’ Aces, don’t waste your time. Just take my word for it that it’s not a pretty picture.).
Don’t get me wrong; I’m not praying for Trihs’s soul or hoping he snaps out of it. You don’t snap out of Trihs’s condition any more than you snap out of an amputated limb. He’s a punk and a creep, and he’s as deserving of a beatdown as Fred Phelps, but pathos is pathos, and unless you’re a bully or a sadist, it is very hard to get worked up at a pathetic human being strongly enough to truly hurt him.
Just let it go. What could any of us possibly do to him that the world and his own mindset haven’t done already? He’s as beyond vengeance and punishment as he is beyond help.
Oh, and by the way, I don’t want to hear about his Asperger’s as an excuse. I’ve known my share of Aspy cases, and none of them were anywhere near this bad. Der Trihs doesn’t talk this shit because he suffers from Asperger’s. He does it because he suffers from being Der Trihs, and that’s a fate I wouldn’t wish on Dick Cheney.
Oh, and in case it wasn’t clear enough from the above, I would not under any circumstances hurt him. It would be wrong, and as I’ve said, what would be the point?
I totally agree with this. It is very disenheartening to see a group of people whose opinions and intellect I otherwise respect (for the most part) devolve into promoting physical violence because of someones opinions. Reminds me of some of the telemarketing threads.
Well, it’s a bit hard to remain level headed when DER TRIHS is hoping for physical violence to happen to people you love, care about, or even just tolerate.
Who’s the bigger asshole, the guy who wishes physical harm on your loved ones, or the guy who wishes physical harm on the guy who just wished physical harm on his loved ones?
Acting shocked, shocked, that people would respond to physical threats with physical threats is pretty naive.
Der Trihs wants American soldiers to be killed. Why shouldn’t they return the favor?
I’m very happy to see I’m not the only person of this opinion. Folks, Der Trihs’ opinions and (seeming lack of) logic can be perfectly adequately addressed here, and in fact have been many times. At some point he’ll most likely either moderate his tone or get his ass banned, and that will be the end of it.
Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t care anymore. I simply remind myself that the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America is among the things that I am sworn to defend, therefore I can take solace in the certain knowledge that he is able to exercise his rights because me and people who came before me ensure that he can.
His statement that is in question was that he hoped the Iraqis would manage to kill the American soldiers before the American soldiers killed them. He said nothing about a desire to harm or kill them himself. An individual stating that they would like to cause him physical harm over that is what is saddening.
He expressed an opinion about the actions he thinks others should take. That is not a physical threat to anyone. I am not saying I agree with his opinion, I find it and some of the reactions to it very disturbing.
