it’s like passing a kidney stone
. . .not to get this rolling again, but they are involved, at some point, albeit after the aprehension (they review the basis for the aprehension). I believe the Consitution requires it.
What I was really trying to say was that CPS does not have anywhere near the autonomy that a lot of people think they do. Even after an emergency situation, they still have to explain themselves to a judge and do so quickly.
Well how are people supposed to argue with that?
Ohhhhhhhh of course. It all makes sense. So when I wrote:
And you responded:
You were simply arguing that CPS does have the authority to take kids in emergency situations but they would have to go in front of a judge pretty quickly. How could I have possibly missed that?
is a lot different than
Thanks, Dio.
If I may, let’s have a look at where the difference of opinion might have appeared.
As you have correctly noted, Ontario law does not apply where you are. But here’s the thing – child protection law where you are does not apply to the State of Tennessee where the apprehension took place, any more than Ontario law.
In your State of Minnesota the authority to apprehend is vested in peace officers but not social services workers (2009 Minnesota Statutes 260C.175), so in Minnesota an emergency child protection apprehension must include a peace officer who officially has the authority to make the apprehension. This law is meaningless in Tennessee and all other states. As previously cited, in Tennessee the CPS is vested with the authority and therefore does not need a peace officer conduct the apprehension.
I expect that if you look about throughout the USA, you will find that states tend to give the power to apprehend to CPS, with Minnesota and a few others being the exceptions to this practice, but I leave this to you to make the survey. Just take the cites provided by other posters in the thread to be indicative of the norm.
I understand why you insisted that police must attend, for you were simply setting out how the law works where you live, and applying it to other jurisdictions, including the jurisdiction in question.
Life on the boards moves on, so in all seriousness, best wishes to you.
Agreed.
Yes, that’s correct. My wife told me how it works in Minnesota. I assumed it was the same way everywhere.
See, this is what makes you different than curlcoat and why, deep down, I’m glad you’re here.
I think curlcoat is a troll. You are just sometimes severely misled, opinionated, and stubborn. 
ETA: Well done on the admitting. Seriously.
I’ll take Patronizing Assholes for $1000, Alex.
Hey, ivn, you’re back for another hug I see. How’d the hangover go?
It is so annoying when someone says, “Ok, I was wrong” and then folks can’t just be like, “that’s what’s up” and keep it moving.
Geez, he’s not an idiot. He was just wrong on one damn detail. Let’s save the condescending pats on the back.
“Who is ivn1188?”
A drunken laywer, starved for affection. Give him a hug too. He needs one.
If he needs attention that bad, someone should pit him. I’d do it but I can’t be assed.
Cite?
Have you read this thread? Condescending is the least that is deserved.
Ivan Alcoholics Anonymous Heil Hitler?
Well, that wrapped everything up nicely. And much quicker than usual.
(Works for me, thanks, Dio.
Act like a dick - minus five points
Continue to act like a dick - minus five points
Act like a weasel in the face of blatant evidence of dickishness - minus five points
Offer grudging one line admission that you were a dick - Plus Twenty five points
Thats community for ya.
(As an aside, if/when I get pitted, I want IVN to post the first reply, just to help me out)