I voted for the dairy ones I’ve never had because I’m pretty sure i would enjoy them. But i, too, mostly want my pie by itself, maybe accompanied by a glass of milk.
The only one that sounded unpleasant was caramel. Apple pie is sometimes too sweet and sticky by itself. (Not when i make it, but it’s a risk buying it.) Adding caramel would definitely push it over the edge into “not what I’m looking for” territory.
I don’t think I’ve ever had it with cheese, and that’s actually a little hard for me to imagine. I think I’d need to try it to have an opinion.
I have, for years, been planning to move out and leave the United States and live abroad. That was the case even long before Trump got reelected. The main thing holding me back is my finances - or, well, lack thereof.
I have been encouraging people to leave the USA for a while. Almost to an individual, they all say it’s impossible. I really worry that things will go south to the point that it will be too late.
Well, I mean, doing so would require giving up a lot: jobs, homes, family, friends, a fuckton of money… You’d need to convince those people that making that massive a sacrifice NOW is completely necessary.
Well, that’s why I asked about other people in my question: to see how far parents like yourself would go to steer their children in the direction they think is best. Like, have you told your kids that you fear for your life, but are staying just for them (I’m assuming they’re adults here). Have you encouraged or even pressured them to flee with you, regardless of their personal circumstances or desires?
(Don’t feel like you need to answer; I’m just explaining my thinking when creating the poll. Feel free to answer through that instead if you like!)
We don’t fear for our lives, but at this point - pretend we don’t have family - we’d now vastly prefer to live in the EU, particularly Germany, and we have both legal access and wealth (so we could buy into the German health system).
Now, Germany ain’t without its problems, particularly lately, but we’ve both spent a lot of time there (my wife grew up there) and we have family there, and it would just be preferable to us in many ways.
With respect, if you emigrate and are separated from them for a few years, you might then be in a position to sponser their exit. If they are willing, which is a whole ’nother ball of wax.
I know this is true. My experience is largely talking to people nearer my age (advanced middle age, shall we say?). I might be able to sponsor my father, but not on a timescale he’ll live to see. I cannot sponsor my aunt. I am filled with such anger that their final years will be spent in this new America, but maybe that’s too dark for a lighthearted thread!
While I wouldn’t blame anyone for wanting to emigrate, the grim truth is that the problem is global.
Wherever you go you’ll find the same fascists, either already in power or trying with good changes to get it.
Emigrating may be a good idea anyway, there will be islands of sanity for a while yet, but I think at this point it’s clear that the only way out, if it exists at all, is through.
We’ll have to fight them and defeat them worldwide and the odds do not seem to be in our favor.
That said, I think there’s still some hope.
I’ve discussed it with my kids. The choices for healthy young adults (them) are different than than the choices for wealthy old people (us) so there aren’t a lot of places we could go together. Maybe Uruguay?
My son has a roommate who he would have to abandon, and he’s afraid for what would happen to her.
I’ve mostly been telling myself, “throughout history, lots of people have lived normal lives under evil totalitarian governments”.
Right now, my husband has just started cancer treatment. Moving might literally kill him.
Yes, the USA is in the throws of being run by a Right Wing Populist. That is happening all over the world. Escaping would be difficult- many other nations might also go down that road.
I nearly responded above that, in addition to financial, age, and health problems: where are you going to go? There are places that look safer at the moment— but a decade ago, I’d sure have thought the USA was one of them.
The one basic activity I won’t be doing is having kids but that has everything to do with being old and not politics. I didn’t pick that because I don’t think that was what was being asked. Basically I will continue to live my life as is. If I had duel citizenship or the means to get it I might consider it but I don’t.
Good point. Plus, just about any place you care to name, things could get a lot better or a lot worse in a relatively short amount of time. None of us knows what the future holds, and there are all sorts of unexpected “plot twists” that could happen.