Can I one up you and say that Pinocchio is the greatest achivement in the field of animation to date? Too far?
Seriously though. People don’t give Pinocchio enough credit. It is far and away the best American animated feature made, possibly the best in the world. It is the Citizen Kane of American animation.
But it looks like it won’t make it to the final 4, and my first round prediction will come true.
I think I may actually want to start a CS thread about this. But in terms of pure animation, on a technical level, I don’t think Disney ever re-achived what they did in Pinocchio. And from a plot perspective, I think it is the only Disney adaptation that manages to improve on the original. (And I like the book).
Wonder if a debate about cartoons would get any traction in CS?
I’d certainly be there because while Fantasia may be ambitious, Pinocchio is simply, even modestly, perfect. It only takes a closer examination of Disney’s legacy in, say, the last half-century to illustrate how amazingly risky and unique the film actually is.
I think The Little Mermaid will beat The Jungle Book as well, which makes me die a little inside.
The Little Mermaid was the beginning of Disney’s renaissance in the 90’s, but, frankly, it wasn’t that well animated. I don’t fault the studio … they were still working to get their chops back. But the drawings are often stiff and feel overly-keyframed.
Compare how Ariel and her friends move in this scene with Mowgli, Kaa, and Shere Khan in this one. It’s like night and day. The Jungle Book characters have a weight and physicality that is entirely absent from the Little Mermaid characters.
You’d get a lot of interest from the various anime fans here, too. While there are the usual “it’s animated, it’s garbage for children” here on the Dope, we’ve got a lot higher percentage of people who view animation as a valid art form.
Whoa, Nelly, sports fans! Have we got some upsets here in Round Three!
Number one seed Cinderella was knocked off by #17 The Emperor’s New Groove.
#9 Lilo and Stitch was overtaken by #25 101 Dalmatians.
#10 Pinocchio got beat by #26 Fantasia.
Last in the upset department is #11 The Lion King over #5 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs!
Four upsets over eight match ups shows a lot of close competition in the trenches here. Who wins in Round Four to get to the quarter finals? Only you, the voters, can say!
Results:
1 Cinderella 18
17 The Emperor’s New Groove 19
25 101 Dalmatians 24
9 Lilo and Stitch 18
4 Sleeping Beauty 18
13 Dumbo 14
5 The Little Mermaid 25
21 The Jungle Book 17
2 Beauty and the Beast 30
18 Robin Hood 12
26 Fantasia 22
10 Pinocchio 20
3 Aladdin 33
19 Peter Pan 9
5 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs 19
11 The Lion King 23
Ok, I just saw this thread. Any contest in which The Emperor’s New Groove is adjudged to be better than Sleeping Beauty has lost all pretense of validity.
