Do you ladies admire radio DJ Tom Leykis?

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Personally, I think he’s a really cool guy and knows his stuff and pulls no punches when discussing men/women relationships.

However, I do dislike him for running that unkind Lacy Peterson “Take me out Tom” skit (making a hammer on the head sound with drowning bubbles), as she was a truly beautiful (pregnant) woman that didn’t deserve to be murdered by her SOB husband. And for the life of me, I can’t understand how he or anyone else thinks that’s funny.

By the way, when I say he’s a “really cool guy,” I’m not necessarily saying I agree with his whole philosopy (as there’s too much coldness and unGodliness at its core); only that he does tend to call a spade a spade, as in too many women use men as pension plans and meal tickets, for example.

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I have never heard a more reprehensible hypocrite on the radio in my life. If you think he’s giving you good advice, enjoy your long, pathetic and shallow existence, thinking a woman is nothing but a moist hole for your dick until you die alone and no one cares.

And he’s about as funny as a mass grave.

By the way, this is coming from a die-hard Howard Stern fan.

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While I admire his competency and talent, being a really great fry cook is just as admirable as an artist or athlete IMO, and Leykis is very good at what he does, no I do not admire or respect him/his message. There are some truths at the core of all that bitterness, absolutely. His stereotyping and over-generalizations benefit no one but his advertisers, I’ve never met a student of Leykis 101 who wasn’t lonely and unhappy.

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I don’t think it’s too smart to take relationship advice from someone who’s been married and divorced four times. What the hell does he know about building a lasting relationship with another person? Not to mention the fact that his whole philosophy is based on the premise that male/female relationships are inherently adversarial and that he’s helping the men to “win,” which thereby implies that the other half of the people in the relationship have to lose–personally, I think that any time someone “wins” in a marriage both partners lose in the long run. He has it as a given that women are the gatekeepers of sex, not active participants and instigators who want it just as much as their male counterparts–it’s such a stupid, antiquated view of sex and it irritates the crap out of me, especially since I’ve ALWAYS been the more highly sexed and most often denied partner in EVERY relationship I’ve had!

He’s an irritating Neanderthal ratings whore and no, I don’t admire him at all. He can occasionally be funny, but in general I find him abrasive, unimaginative and he exemplifies all that I find most abhorrent in the “real man” model this culture idolizes. The men I’ve been with are competent, intelligent, flexible, funny, don’t mire themselves in stupid stereotypes of “manliness,” and are therefore supremely sexy and admirable PEOPLE. Drawing these artificial male/female dichotomous caricatures diverts attention away from the fact that we’re all just human beings, infinite in our diversity yet united in our common heritage. We aren’t warring species battling to seize territory from each other, we’re just people trying to make the world a little warmer by understanding, mutual comfort and caring.

Leykis strikes me as an incredibly lonely person, but I don’t feel bad for him because he made his bed and now must lie in it–alone no matter how many women he screws there. Oh, and I wouldn’t fuck him with yours… :wally

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I used to like Stern and his radio gang until one time I heard them all laughing and making jokes about Lacy Peterson and her baby being killed. After that, I only listen now and then.

Your comments seem a little out of line with my post (though I’ll not bother trying to explain it).

Too bad there’s a lot of flies in the ointments with so many of these nationally syndicated radio shows.

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We aren’t warring species battling to seize territory from each other, we’re just people trying to make the world a little warmer by understanding, mutual comfort and caring.

Hmm. I was was with a woman once. I worked hard supporting us for two years in a job I hated while she stayed in our little apartment and smoked pot, watched tv and then hooked up with a dude to play tennis with and humped him.

But the real indication of her “undertanding, mutual comfort and caring” was shown when I became sick as a dog (with the flu) and asked her if she’d mind going to the frig and getting me a glass of orange juice. She balked until I pleaded some, then she stormed out and brought me the juice in anger, not love.

We lived in a crummy apartment and I asked her if she’d get a job so we could afford to move. She kept saying her body was full of arthritise (sp?) and that I was cruel to ask her to go to work. (I asked her how she was able to play tennnis if she was hurting so much, and her answer was that she could because she reached way inside herself to tolerate it … with the intent to heal her self.) Then finally she agred to get a job by a certain date, then, that date came and she came to where I worked and handed me an evelope and ran off.

I read the letter inside and learned that I had “tortured” her for two years, that she was a “gifted artist” and that I was an SOB for trying to prevent her from allowing the world to know the glory of her work … and so on and so on.

She told (in the letter) that may things were in a locker at the Greyhound bus station. So I took the key (that was in the evelope) and got my stuff, a couple of pairs of pants, socks and a couple of shirts.

I then walked back to the place I’d been paying for her (which was in her name) and knocked on the door … and she proceeded to lay into me for torturing her and keeping her from her art (she couldn’t paint worth a shit, BTW) and so I asked her why she gets all the few possessions and I get nothing. This question caused her to boil in anger and she layed the torture crap on me some more
saying that the hell I put her through justified her getting it all.

During the whole time we were together she did buy a typewriter for “us” with some money from a bogus legal scham she’d won from her employer befor she met me. (MY money went to the processing fee, $300.) And so, when I asked “Can’t I at least have my typewriter?” She blew a fuse and screamed “THAT MY TYPEWRITER I BOUGHT WITH MY SETTLEMENT MONEY!”

The next day I went to the bank to withdraw half the money my parents sent us for having gotten married, and the banker told me that the account had ben closed – the pig had cleaned it all out!

Yeah, sure; there’s no place for Tom Leykis in this world.

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So one bad apple that YOU picked means that Tom Leykis’ opinion on women is totally validated? I’m sorry for what you went through and all, but I call BS. If you’re in a bad relationship, leave. Did you have kids with this woman? No? No excuse to stay.

And, by the by, I’ve seen plenty of MEN that use WOMEN as their “meal ticket and pension plan” (I only need look as far as two brothers-in-law). It goes both ways baby. Same rules apply: bad situation? Leave, and find someone worthwhile. There are shitty human beings on both sides of the equation.

I’ve seen it said here on the Dope many times, and it bears repeating: the common denominator in bad relationships is the “victimized” party. And that goes for Leykis. Four divorces, must be the women, right? :rolleyes:

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It’s hard to reason with a woman deep sigh…

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So one bad apple that YOU picked means that Tom Leykis’ opinion on women is totally validated? ← did i say anything about “totally validated”?

I’m sorry for what you went through and all, but I call BS. If you’re in a bad relationship, leave. Did you have kids with this woman? No? No excuse to stay. ← no kids. the money i made was not enough to save for a first and last month rent; plus she took it. (the relationship we had and who i was and am is too complicated to be truly understood here.)

And, by the by, I’ve seen plenty of MEN that use WOMEN as their “meal ticket and pension plan” (I only need look as far as two brothers-in-law). It goes both ways baby. ← okay, now here’s where you’re full of it. it goes without saying that men also use women. BUT, GENERALLY it’s the women in this country that get to ream men out of money and property, and you know it! look at all those women in the fortune 500, how many of them got all that money and/or businesses because some guy worked his tail off and then one day keeled over from a heart attack? and how often do you ever see rich women marry some poor guy and share all her money with vs. the other way around? (look at Winfrey and her gazillions. do you think she’s ever really going to marry Stedman? NO! and then look at all those Hollywood guys that marry babes that have little; do you see the dif?)

Same rules apply: bad situation? Leave, and find someone worthwhile. There are shitty human beings on both sides of the equation.

I’ve seen it said here on the Dope many times, and it bears repeating: the common denominator in bad relationships is the “victimized” party. And that goes for Leykis. Four divorces, must be the women, right? < you’re being too emotional; try and work on the logic a little more, sugarbuns. :cool:

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No. I don’t “know it”. Got a reliable cite handy?

No, I don’t know how many of them. Why don’t you show me a cite showing how many?

Your straw is showing. And badly enough that even I can see it.

Do you have anything reliable to back any of your “and you KNOW it!” type rants besides whatever Leykis says?

When come back, bring coherent post.

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I’ve never understood guys (or women) who think this way. It’s not the riddle of the Sphinx. People are people, dammit. It’s not that hard.

Name some. Please. Go ahead and look it up, then tell us what you find. Don’t ask rhetorical questions like that and expect someone else to do the work.

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Look, it’s quite simple. Some people are honorable, loving, caring, responsible individuals. Some people are conniving, manipulative, scuzzy, lazy fucktards. Some of these people (about half, usually) will have penises. The rest will have vaginas. Possession of one or another set of genitalia does not predispose the person to either set of characteristics. We all start out with Wolffian ducts, we either get or don’t get a fetal androgen bath to make us come out with one type of genitalia or the other, everything else is how we’re raised and the choices we make. Stop generalizing about people based on something so fucking irrelevant as genitalia and I think you’ll get along in the world much better. Besides, sweeping generalizations allow one to stop thinking critically, which might be easier and more comfortable in the short run but also tend to make one more likely to fall into the “fucktard” category. Think with big head, not little head.

This is why Leykis needs his vocal chords removed–for the greater good of the world. He panders to the lowest common denominator and buttresses the knee jerks of the world. “All women mean and bitchy and out to take money from men!” “All men want sex all the time with no emotional commitment!” “Women unable to make money on their own, want to be leeches and eat bonbons all day!” (Tell this one to my mom, who runs a multimillion dollar business all by her widdle self!)

Again, when come back bring critical thinking process!

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I used to listen to Lykis years ago, before he started all of this relationship crap. He used to talk about politics and current events and usually, it was an interesting discussion. I really had some respect for him.

Now, I can’t listen to 5 minutes of him, without changing the station. I don’t find anything he says enlightening or amusing. “Ratings whore” is about the best way to describe him. He sold out and he sucks. Kind of a shame, actually.

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Some things are funny because they’re twisted, wrong, dark, etc. There’s a lot of people out there who will just never ‘get’ that type of humor. If the first thing that pops into your mind after a Laci Peterson joke is a feeling of sadness for her tragic ordeal…then that extreme flavor of dark humor is probably not up your alley.

I doubt any amount of justification or explanation would change your mind…

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Never once listened to the guy.

I once went on an internet date with a woman who couldn’t stop talking about him. She started by telling me of a previous internet date she had been on where her date expoused Lykis’ philosophy endlessly, and could I believe there were actually people like that in the world? Then she told me she listened to him every afternoon, and proceeded to regale me with all kinds of stories about his theories. She would not allow the subject to be changed. I eventually said “I guess you reallly like the guy, huh?” She admitted that yes, she did. We didn’t go out again.

So there are women like that out there. As for me, when I’m feeling misogynistic, I pop in a Rolling Stones album and sing along until the feeling goes away. When Keith Richards puts together an awesome band fronting Lykis, I may listen. Until then he’s just a loudmouth as far as I’m concerned.

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Tom Leykis is not a relationship expert. He espouses the view that people should not date seriously until their careers are fully realized and are ready to marry.

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Leykis only recently started being aired here. I’ve listened to perhaps a total of 2 hours worth of his show. It seems quite clear to me that he despises women. I have always been a big fan of Stern, who some people would consider similar, but Leykis just turns my stomach.

George