If the deranged blather being ejected from Trump’s face hole is what’s knocking around in their heads, they’re even more profoundly fucked up than I thought.
Trump at N.H. rally: ‘You have no choice but to vote for me’
What an arrogant SOB. Glad he managed to work Hillary’s emails into it. :rolleyes:
Nice economy we got here. Be a shame if something happened to it. I could do a lot of damage on the way out the door, you wouldn’t want that, would you?
Turns out I didn’t cover the speech as thoroughly as it deserved:
I guess that’s all the important stuff.
Yep, trump will win. All the dems are busy doing the GOPs job for them and tearing down each other, especially the frontrunner.
“Bidens too old!” (Except Sanders is older and trump is almost as old)
etc, etc.
Dude, chill. I’m not a fan of Sanders, but at least Sanders isn’t withdrawing himself from public view because his handlers are afraid of how he’ll look in front of the camera. Joe Biden doesn’t look like he’s a candidate for president right now; he looks like he’s a candidate for a retirement home. I came into the race leaning toward Biden, and I don’t think he would be a particularly disastrous president, but he looks weak on camera and there’s no getting around that.
"huge danger sign for Trump in new NBC/WSJ poll:
among white women without college degrees, Trump trails generic 2020 Democrat by 6 percentage points
in 2016, exit polls showed him beating Hillary among those voters by 27 percentage points."
Link to poll:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6297116-NBCWSJ-August-2019-Poll.html
“My worst polls have always been from Fox”, lol.
Fox abandoning Trump? Reminds me of the headline:
“Rats Desert Stinking Shit”
For the purposes of this thread I would like to point out that Anthony Scaramucci predicts that Trump will resign by March.
My birthday is in March. Oh, PLEASE, let this happen! 
Link:
Scaramucci is, at best, slightly less a colossal fool now than before. More likely he’s still just a lying opportunist trying to figure out which way the wind is blowing. Just like he (probably) was before.
Oh, no doubt. But! It’s still a data point for this thread. 
The idea that Democrats should not impeach Trump, because it may rile up his voters and be a detriment to their chances in the presidential election, has been brought up here and elsewhere. In an article at Salon.com Rachel Bitecofer addresses this, not directly, but suggestively, in an interview:
She will be releasing her full data after Labor Day, but this suggestive of sort of what I and others have said elsewhere, in a nutshell: the best course for Democrats is to go after Trump with impeachment without fear of riling up anyone. They are already riled up.
In other news from that article, she is predicting a Democrat victory at this point, with 278 electoral votes, and has other interesting things to say, especially about the midwest, if anyone is interested.
If there are clear high crimes and misdemeanors and the House fails to impeach due to political considerations then agreed, the political Realpolitik would likely backfire.
And we can leave what are clear high crimes and misdemeanors for another thread.
Politically the investigation of such crimes needs to not be the major focus and order of business though. The House has to first and foremost be seen as trying to do the business of governance (with the Senate and the president continuing to be the operatives of No.) both can be done at the same time and one must be in the spotlight.
It’s not “riling up”. Its the fact that trump will be proven “Not Guilty”. Thus to all the fence sitters, it will be evidence that the Dems were just on a witch hunt and that trump is innocent.
The Senate will not vote to remove/convict.
So whats the deal in March? Whats looming around that would want him to bounce specifically then?
If its in the article, sorry to ask. I can’t get it to load for some reason. It has a pop up ad on it that seems to hose it from loading.
I highly doubt anyone here is so deluded as to believe theSenate would convict (barring something happening that causes Trump’s very base to abandon ship).
Who do you mean by the fence sitters?
The potentially swingable are Romney Trump voters, who get that Senate failure to convict is political only, and Obama Trump voters, who likely think both impeachment and conviction are purely acts of political theater. I don’t see many who would be convinced of his innocence by this would did not already believe it. If the evidence is overwhelming maybe a couple the other way.
Do what history demands as the right thing depending on what the case is. Abdicate that demand at a turnout deficit cost.
What the article JohnT linked to says is that Trump will drop his re-election bid by March.
Oh, nothing. Scaramooch is promoting his book and is merely making waves. I don’t think he could make the case for March, either. 