***Diane: {{What the fuck you talking about?}}
I’m talking about exactly what I said the first time–that I think your primary problem is less with this woman’s kids than with the fact that she doesn’t do things as you think she should. In all the posts that have followed, I’ve seen nothing to change my mind.
{{Number 1, she is my friend.}}
Yeah? You didn’t describe her as a “friend” anywhere prior to this–you described her as “a woman I work with.” Unless you are unlike every other person I’ve ever known, you would have said “friend” if that’s what she was.
{{Oh, and to answer the accusations of jealousy? HA! HA! HA! Jealous of WHAT? Sorry to burst your bubble, but not fuckin hardly.}}
That was C-3’s point, not mine–you might wanna organize your replies better. Not that I have some overwhelming urge to separate myself from C-3–I’ve been in maybe four threads that he’s posted in, and none of them have given me the idea that he should be treated as an outcast. So he believes in aliens and likes the Bengals–we all have our quirks.
I myself wouldn’t have phrased it as jealousy…but your overreaction to his point makes me wonder. Or was it just a good place to slam your “friend” again? (Interpretation: “I like good-looking guys, as opposed to what SHE dragged in.”) Seeing as how you went out of your way to tell us that she was “fat and ugly” (though you condescendingly announced that she doesn’t LOOK that fat, and that people like her can date anyway), I have a suspicion that your real reason for starting this thread was to boost your own ego. And that when not everybody joined in admiring how much smarter than she you are, you took it as a personal attack which called for you to lash out.
{{BTW Asswipe (not you Chief or Rich). If I am juggling two, three, or ten boyfriends - Oh freakin-well. I don’t have a fucking ring on my finger.}}
You can feel free to call me “asswipe,” or anything else that strikes you as a substitute for logic. I’ll try real hard not to cry or anything.
When C-3 brought this up, my reaction was “Huh?” Now that I see where he got it, I understand what he was saying. I’ll rephrase it in my own words: for someone who claims to be so concerned about other people’s child-rearing, you sure don’t seem to care what kind of example you set for your own kids. Somebody might come to the conclusion that you suck as a parent.
{{We are having a shower for her in the office and me, being the considerate person that I am, offered to be in charge of Male Stripper Night!}}
Yeah, I can just feel the love.
{{If you don’t think there is anything wrong with this picture, then you suck as a parent, at least in Diane World.}}
Nobody endorsed what your “friend” did–indeed, I said that I wouldn’t do it myself. What was said was that you were overreacting, and that it wasn’t any of your business…which is obviously good cause for you to declare that anyone who disagrees with you “suck[s] as a parent.”
{{Because it is fun to poke the doggie with sticks throught the fence just to hear him bark and howl.}}
Isn’t it, though? That’s why I’m replying to you.
{{One last question to the guys who jumped on my ass. Don’t bother answering, Con. Your opinion means squat. The others I respect enough to hear their thoughts.}}
My, now THERE’S a dubious honor if ever there was one.
{{If you have younger kids that are living with an ex, how would you truly feel […].}}
Would I be unhappy in the situation you describe? Yes, I would. Would I object to my ex? Yes, I would. Would I be mad when she told me to buzz off? Yes, I would. The children involved would be mine, after all–that would give me standing to be aggrieved.
But once I made my point there wouldn’t be a whole lot I could do about it, now would there? And does this mean I think some meddler from work had any right to stick his/her nose in? No, it doesn’t.
{{Not that MY opinion means anything to you[…].}}
We’ve found something we agree on after all.
{{If you agree that she is acting irresponsible and maybe even endangering her kids physically or emotionally, then what the hell is your rant about?}}
My “rant” (I didn’t know disagreeing with you meant I was ranting) has less to do with the situation you describe than with your urge to meddle, or at least to hold your “friend” up to ridicule. If this woman really does think of you as a friend, I feel very sorry for her.
{{I have stated my opinion strongly (which obviously threatens some of you men).}}
Ah, I see–you think anyone who disagrees with you is “threaten[ed].” 'Fraid not–I don’t find foul-mouthed control freaks with chips on their shoulders threatening at all. Especially ones who can barely construct sentences.
I’ll sit back now and wait for Diane to throw crap at me–not that I imagine it’ll be much more enlightening than watching her swear and call me names, but, hey, you take your fun where you can get it.
***Rilchiam: {{So prove it. Don’t blame us; blame all the guys who ruined it for you.}}
How do you prove a negative?
I’ve never been in the situation of dating a woman with young children, and I’d never given the subject much thought. Now that this thread has caused me to think about it, I’ve concluded that I would most likely avoid such women entirely. I understand the concerns, and I don’t disagree with being careful–maybe even to the extent of paranoia, though paranoia itself is liable to hurt kids–but I don’t think I’d be willing to put myself through it. Life’s too short to have to prove I’m not “shitboy”–anyone who thinks that’s a real possibility has no business being with me in the first place.
Rich Barr
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