Does She Even Know His Name?

Only 2 real points need to be made here:

  1. I agree that the woman discussed in the OP is doing something very scary, and it isn’t worth “getting the paper signed” that damn fast when it would be SO much better (physically/psychologically/etc) for the kids if she waited a bit.

  2. Con #3 is a retarded glob of newt poopie.


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“newt poopie”? What’s that? Is that what fat, ugly, witch wanna-be sluts scrap up off their alters after pretending to cast a spell or concocy a “magick” potion?


Contestant #3

“newt poopie”? What’s that? Is that what fat, ugly, witch wanna-be sluts scrap up off their alters after pretending to cast a spell or concoct a “magick” potion?


Contestant #3

You may think you intimidate some people here, maybe you do, but “attacked by C#3” - HA HA HA HA HA - PULEEEEEZE - you’re a pussy.

You give yourself too much credit. The day you are able to attack at my level will be the day I may begin to worry.

Your lame attacks are based only upon your stupidity and assumptions therefore, they hold no real punch. Tell me again, “dating since March and introducing my kids to him 3 months ago” means what??? You’re a retard.

Until then Spanky, you just keep trying, M’Kay?

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Contestant #3

CONTESTANT #3!!!

You had ABSOLUTELY no right to say that to Opal, nor is there any logical point in persisting with Diane. DESIST! Immediately!!


Veni, Vidi, Visa … I came, I saw, I bought.

They stop attacking me, I stop attacking them…it’s as simple as that Chris.

The way I see it, I have just as much of a “right” to attack them as they do to attack me.

I offered to cease…didn’t you see that…it’s about 10 posts back. The same offer applies to Opal. Leave me alone, I’ll leave her alone…otherwise, it’s ON!


Contestant #3

Perhaps this is for the BBQ Pit?

As for the woman of post 1, perhaps she is looking for a Darwin Award, if she manages to wipe out her DNA and that of her offspring.

I am mostly a lurker here and from everything I have read it seems that it is more like “post something that you believe strongly in = expect C-3 to attack every aspect of your life/personality he can remember.”


Born O.K. the first time…

Actually, evilbeth, it usually goes like this:

You state your opinion.

I disagree strongly with your opinion

You get pissed and flame me

I get pissed that you flamed me and up the ante

If you were REALLY paying attention, that’s what you’d be seeing…


Contestant #3

I told my mom about the situation in the OP and she was horrified. She is one of the nation’s leading experts on child sexual abuse, incidentally.


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Is it possible to agree with both sides in this argument?

What’s done is done. Hope they’re happy. But keep your eyes and ears peeled for any inconsistencies in stories. If you have the money and you truly care about your friend, hire a P.I. If not, be on the lookout.

As for doing the deed in front of the kids…well, that whole thing was getting a bit ridiculous. Realize, however, that kids are smarter than you think, and can pick up on those things pretty easily from a decently young age. I could, at least.

Ah, Diane…if ignorance was money, you wouldn’t have to go out hunting wealthy men.

***Diane: {{My “What the fuck . . . .” comment was in reply to your assumption that I tell her how to live and raise her kids and also your accusation that I am not her friend. If you are going to open your flap-trap, back up your statements. C&P anything that I wrote that shows your statement to be true. If you can’t then “What the fuck you talking about, other than outa-yer-ass assumptions”?}}

I didn’t say you TOLD her how to raise her kids–I doubt you’d have the guts. I said you got your nose out of joint because she didn’t operate as you thought she should.

As for my saying she isn’t your friend, you went ahead and quoted my reasons: “You didn’t describe her as a “friend” anywhere prior to this–you described her as “a woman I work with.” Unless you are unlike every other person I’ve ever known, you would have said “friend” if that’s what she was.”

{{My OP mentioned that her only friends were here at work. I didn’t know I needed to clarify that for the reading challenged, but yeah, she is my friend.}}

That tells me she may see YOU as a friend…but then we’ve already determined her judgement is pretty poor, now haven’t we?

As for your opinion of her, I quote from later in the thread: “My coworker did something that I felt was a good topic for conversation[…].” You refer to her as a friend only when the point is being questioned–otherwise she’s just a “coworker.”

{{OMG! This has got to be the funniest thing I have read on the MB in a long time! You’re new here, aren’t ya? May I suggest that you do a little more research, ummm say more than four threads and then report back to us, okie-dokie?}}

Yes, I am new here. No, I don’t feel any great urge to look up everything C-3 may have said, anymore than I have an urge to look up what you may have said–I don’t care. I take people as they come, and I don’t take a dislike to others just because some yahoo tells me I should.

{{For the comprehensibly challenged: SHE described HERSELF as being fat and ugly. I only mentioned it so others could get a grasp on her state of mind and the way SHE she perceives HERSELF.}}

That would work, if it actually formed a part of the story. WHY she hooked up with this guy is pretty much irrelevant to your point, except for the purpose of ridicule.

{{It’s not surprising that you can’t see the relevance to this story or that you failed to read it as it was presented.}}

I read it as presented, then I analyzed WHY it was presented that way. My conclusions are what I said.

{{For some reason you have a problem with me.}}

Yes, I do. I have a problem with people who get their jollies by being nasty and shitting all over others–bullies, that is to say–and I think such people need a little of the same treatment back. I also dislike hypocrites, which C-3 has shown you to be.

{{I don’t know why nor do I care (that smoking thread maybe?)}}

Nope. I’ve never seen your posts before that I recall–I’ve drawn my conclusions about you from this thread alone (and from the post of yours that C-3 quoted, which does nothing but reinforce my conclusions). Why, were you shitting on people in a smoking thread, too? Big surprise. (And why do you ask if you don’t care?)

{{but it is becoming quite apparent that your need to dissect my words with your unfair and wrong interpretations is preventing you from debating a subject at its true meaning.}}

My interpretations are preventing me from buying your views, you mean.

{{You are amazingly stupid.}}

One of us is, anyway.

{{Others have seen the obvious - my fear for a friend’s (yes F-R-I-E-N-D) children. How that is a boost to my own ego is something that must only make sense on your planet.}}

On my planet, I like to look beyond the surface. What’s obvious to me is that you enjoy making fun of people, including your alleged “F-R-I-E-N-D.” Such people do so mainly because they are insecure and need to feel superior to somebody–that’s the only way they know how.

{{Okay, asswipe.}}

Try being less predictable, if you have the brains to do so.

{{My kids do not know that feelings go deeper between me and Carlos. They have always known that we share a deep friendship, but that is all.}}

Unless your kids are all awfully young (below kindergarten-age), they most likely know something’s going on–maybe not what, but something. And eventually it may very well come out–kids know a lot more than just what you tell them, or just what you do in front of them. Ask your “friend”–maybe she’ll explain it in depth for you.

So chances are that your kids will discover at some point that (A) you screw married men, (B) you like to dangle multiple men on your string with no regard for anybody’s feelings except your own, and © you are a hypocritical jerk. (See C-3’s posting of your own post. Don’t you hate when people find these things?) Knowing these things about their mommy can’t possibly do them any good. As far as I’m concerned, you therefore may be exposing your children to potential harm…which you yourself have defined as meaning you “suck as a parent.”

{{You don’t know anything about me so don’t make more of your assumptions, it just makes you look like an idiot.}}

I know everything about you that I care to. Sounds like what your “friend” would probably say to you, if you had the guts to show her this thread.

{{stay the hell out of my personal life, M’Kay?}}

Only you are allowed to dissect other people’s personal lives, eh? You must have heard the saying about people who live in glass houses not throwing stones, right? (And is “M’Kay” your concept of sounding cool or something? Aren’t you a little long in the tooth for that?)

{{As intriguing as it must be for you, my sex life is none of your business.}}

You keep coming out with stuff like this. You must be even more insecure than I thought.

The only sex lives I find intriguing are those belonging to women I’d want personally, so I’m afraid not. And considering that you are potentially in the process of harming your children, which is allegedly the subject of this thread, I think it’s a fit matter for discussion.

{{Hard to type with one hand? Sorry, I’ll try not to mention MALE STRIPPERS again.}}

This would be a hilarious come-back…if you were 16 years old. I’m sure you haven’t seen 16 in a long time.

{{Oh yeah? Again, you wanna toss accusations? Prove it by C&Ping anything I said to back up your statement that anyone who doesn’t agree with my idea of child rearing sucks as a parent.}}

You apparently think anything you don’t print outright doesn’t count. I think your overall meaning was pretty clear.

{{I SAID for the millionth time - Listen up. Anyone who would leave their children with a man they have known for only 2 weeks and just met face to face a few hours before their wedding, sucks as a parent.}}

You ALSO said it might be just as well ChiefScott didn’t have custody of his kids. As far as I know, he didn’t and wouldn’t do what you described, but you threw it at him anyway…for the crime of refusing to toe your line.

{{Does planet Rich think I am also meddling if I say that any parent who beats their kid, screams at them, ignores them, or lets them run loose at all hours of the night also sucks as parent?}}

Nope–in those cases we have ACTUAL harmful behavior, as opposed to your PRESUMPTION of POTENTIAL harmful behavior. There is a difference, though your tiny little mind seems unable to grasp it.

{{Guess what? I think they suck. Deal with it.}}

And I think people with screwed-up sex lives who don’t think their actions affect their children suck. Deal with it.

{{I ain’t barking. I just think you’re an idiot.}}

I think you’re being the perfect little doggie. Woof! Woof!

{{I wasn’t going to mention it, but seeing your track record of incoherence, I better clarify that the dog
statement was directed at your buddy Con. He wrote a nice little story a few weeks ago. But hey, you wanna join in - be my guest.}}

So, hey, how 'bout those Detroit Lions?

She is a woman, and Diane does work with her.

She knew she was going to have opposition if she told anyone what she was doing, because she knew it was basically a dumb thing to do.

Yeah, this statement has “disrespect” written all over it. Whatever.

Like Diane, a person with whom the woman works. Diane, who said she is a great girl. Diane, who I believe is being truthful when she claims to be the woman’s friend.

Love at first sight? It could happen. Cause for concern nonetheless? Of course.

But of course, she’s just a woman that Diane works with, so this part doesn’t count, right?

Again, cause for concern. Especially since there are children involved.

There you have it. OP mentions that Diane has done outrageous things. Unless you’ve been living under a rock, you have too. That doesn’t disqualify her from being allowed to be wary of her co-worker-friend’s new situation.

Imagine that! Twice, she mentions that she’s pleased that her friend is happy. Still doesn’t ease the queasiness that this may not be the best situation for, if nobody else, the children.

Since she hasn’t voiced her concerns to her friend, and she hasn’t talked about it with their mutual friends, but instead has sought outside discussion to express herself, I’d say “No, Diane is not overreacting.”

So, in a nutshell:

Diane’s friend does something that gives cause to be concerned. Diane initiates topic to see if her trusted SD friends agree that she should be concerned.

C#3: I’ve always been cool with you. In this thread, however, you’re starting to get on my nerves. Both you and Rich are dragging in elements that are ill-placed and irrelevant. If you don’t have anything to say in regard to the OP, click on your back button and find a different thread. If you want to flame her, or anyone, you know where to take it.

At least ChiefScott finally got it.
Chris
(who was FAR more polite than intended.)

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THANK YOU CHRIS! :::smooches:::

Gawd, I never thought I would :::smooch::: on a message board, but I just couldn’t help myself!

It is wonderful to see that 99.9% of the people on here can read and comprehend what they read, whether or not they agree with me, they still understand what it is we are discussing and not pulling off the wall crap out of their ass that is irrelevant to the thread.

Rich - I’ll make this as simple as possible - AGAIN! (Do you even read the things that are written here? 94 posts and you still don’t understand? Is it any wonder I think of you as a total fucking idiot?)

  1. Yes, she is my friend. Not a good friend, we don’t see each other away from work, but a friend nevertheless. Do you not consider certain coworkers friends? I do.

Are you really incapable of getting past the FRIEND thing? It doesn’t have any relevance to the story, you know. Really.

But. . . Now follow me here, this is where it begins to go over your head. . . . BUT. . . . even if I didn’t know her from Adam, I would still think she was acting irresponsible.

** THE RELATIONSHIP I HAVE WITH THIS WOMAN IS IRRELEVANT TO THE FACT THAT I FEEL SHE IS BEING IRRESPONSIBLE BY LETTING THIS MAN INTO HER HOME SO SOON!!! PERIOD! **

Jeeeeesh! I about busted my own eardrums with that one.

As far as me butting in, it isn’t because I am a coward (what the fuck is that about) but for the simple reason she hasn’t asked. If she asks, I will say how I feel, if not, then no. Coward??? Give me a break.

  1. Her perception of herself DOES matter in this story. By her own admittance, she did not think that she could get a man because she did not feel she was attractive. IN HER OWN WORDS, she described herself as being fat and ugly (I strongly disagree with her and stated that many times. Did you fail to notice or just not comprehend?).

Since you are unable to understand how this pertains to the story, I will attempt to explain although I have my doubts that you will actually “get it”. It is relevant to the story because it shows that she does not have a high self-esteem. She used to joke to me and others that she was getting desparate but didn’t think anyone would want her. I think her self image shows that she may not have been thinking clearly when she married the first guy she dated in many years. (She didn’t even DATE this guy.)

JFTR in case you missed it in the OP (you appear to have missed a lot). I think she is a very nice looking lady. She is large but I do not think of her as fat, besides “fat” does not equal “ugly” or “unacceptable”. As I said before, dating is not exclusively for the thin and beautiful. I think that if her self-esteem were higher she would have had men asking her out all the time, regardless of the way she looks. She didn’t believe in herself.

Got that? Now here is where it gets complicated.

If she meets a man online and marries him within two weeks - great. Love at first sight and all those other mushy things. . . . I would be very happy for her. Worried, but happy that she found someone. HOWEVER - the story takes on an entirely different facet when it involves kids and moving this stranger into the home. It gets even scarier when she leaves them alone with this guy for hours TWO DAYS AFTER MEETING HIM FACE TO FACE!

It has nothing to do with romance and love at first sight. It has to do with putting your children at risk.

If you can’t compute this in your head, then there is nothing more I can say to you other than “you just don’t get it.”

With the exception of C#3 (who I think “gets it” but is just being his trolling little self), do you wonder why you appear to be the only one on this entire thread who appears to not know what the issues are we are discussing? I don’t mean those who AGREE with me, just simply those who understand the actual topic. Seriously, you may want to peruse the thread a little closer.

  1. My mistake about the smoking thread. You reminded me of someone who jumped into the conversation with a rant that had nothing to do with the discussion. Sorry, I thought it was you.

  2. Not that it is any of your business, but I have not slept with Carlos in almost a year. My kids were NEVER in a position to witness anything. They know Carlos as my good friend, just as they have for the past 8 years. It’s not like they spent a lot of time around him and were able to pick up on things. They see rarely him now and they rarely saw him then.

I am very careful to keep my children away from men in my life. They don’t meet the men I date unless I have been with them for an extended period of time. You have no clue on how I raise my children, so don’t make assumptions. Assumptions don’t support arguments, it just makes you look like you are grasping at straws.

If the fact that I think bringing a virtual stranger into a home and leaving him alone with children is scary and irresponsible makes you think bad of me (what were your words? Jealous? Busybody? Bad “friend”?) , well then - WTF. No skin off my butt.

BTW - you are pretty opinionated in this are for someone who doesn’t even have kids.

It goes over his head again. . .

You know, you were the one who said that my opinion meant nothing to you. . . . so yeah, hence your long-winded post, dumb ass.

That’s a joke coming from the only one on the thread (since Scott “got it” and not counting C#3) who doesn’t have a clue as to the topic.

My sig line - It’s a joke. It must have also gone over your little head.

The comment to Chief Scott? - Read the board. In fact, my I suggest you lurk a little while and get yourself up to speed here? M’Kay?

You know what? I am going to stop - right here - right now. I am going to be the bigger person. First you come onto a thread, completely dissected the things that I wrote to fit some sort of twisted version of what you want it to say and then attacked me for your misconceptions. The words on the OP were MY words and MY feelings. I don’t feel like I need to defend myself to you or C#3 any longer against the gross misinterpretation the two of you created.

Not only do I think you are a prick, I think you are a stupid idiot who is too dumb to see that he is continuing to make a jackass of himself by arguing against something he created in his head. You really should look closely at this thread and see if you can see the left field you are coming from.

You seem to have this need to attack me, but I’m not going to play your bullshit. You want to continue - feel free - go play with yourself (here, I’ll help - MALE STRIPPERS). Did you win because I am backing down? Maybe in your world and if you want to believe that, be my guest. The truth is, is that arguing you and your irrelevant points is a waste of my time and only makes you look more stupid. Consider it a favor.

Adios asshole.


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Gosh Dang ChrisCTP! It’s been 4 days since I slammed anyone out here!..cut me some slack!..even my previous couple of posts in this thread were flame-free! What’s up?..a little delayed-reaction chastising? I shut up and now you drag me back in!

I do agree with you though when you observe that CheifScott got it right…that’s because one of the last things he wrote in this thread was:

“C#3–
You, my new friend, have just impressed the shit out of me!!
I therefore humble myself before you shitlessly!”

Oh, and Rich, to answer you question…yeah, they try to make me one…I fight back real well though…the only real method they have to trump me is by using administrative powers.

Contestant #3

Sorry about the “delayed reaction” C#3… it took me that long to sort out what I wanted to say. (Don’t worry, I haven’t become an “Anti-C#3” convert… I still like ya!)

It probably ignited after reading Rich’s long-ass post, wherein he added fuel to fire by reiterating the crap that you brought in earlier. Diane’s personal life really is irrelevant in this case, I think you know that. I think that you’re just one of those people who has to have the last word. Don’t worry, I’m one of those, too.

So, again, apologies for “delayed reaction chastising” (I prefer to call it scolding, if anything) and YES, I do realize that your last few posts were relatively flame-free.


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Contestant #3 in his massive paranoia shared: the only real method they have to trump me is by using administrative powers.

You are so paranoid it is almost sad! Where do you get this idea that EVERYONE is out to get you? Even on this thread you have somehow managed to turn everything to you. Wow. It must be hell being you; the center of the universe. I can’t even imagine how your family deals with revolving around the Glory of You! The pure white light of stupidity must be blinding!

Show me one person on this thread that has even tried to “Invoke” the powers that be. You can’t! You just have to keep telling everyone that you are some kind of rebel that all the moderators want to shut down because you have nothing else to hang your hat on.

No one can trump you? I think Diane and ChrisCTP have trumped you rather well and you can’t fight back so you bring up the fact that you are just holding yourself back so you don’t get slammed by the moderators. A neat and convenient excuse. Gosh, gee, if it wasn’t for THEM you’d really let us all have it, wouldn’t you?

Regardless of your persecution complex I don’t think any of the moderators have it in for you. Even posters like me don’t want to shut you down. Most of the time, yeah, I think you are just trolling, but at least you can usually raise an interesting issue, type and spell correctly, so yeah, I’m okay with you. But your “everyone is afraid of me” and the “powers that be want to shut me down” crap is getting old. I guess when you can’t trump back you cry “foul” and blame the “administrative powers”.

Is this your concept of sounding cool or something? Aren’t you a little long in the tooth for that?

This would be a hilarious come-back…if you were 16 years old.

But then what do we expect from one who aligns himself with C#3? Birds of a feather, and all.


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