Does this make me a homophobe (or prejudiced)?

Ok, I’ve had a bit of time to think, and having read these great responses, I have come to the following conclusions about my origional posts:

Re: feeling sorry for gays. I feel sorry that we live in a world where ANYONE should have to face abuse or hostility because of somethiing over which they have no control.I don’t feel sorry for gays being gay cause they arn’t.

Re: The diffirent types of sex and the pleasure gained thereof…to use a metaphor I just thought of and want to use 'cause I like it…

I drink a certian kind of soda. I very much enjoy this type, and know that there are others who prefer a diffirent brand. Not having tried those other brands, I simply wished that everyone’s brand could be as satisfying to them as mine is to me, and I felt sorry for them if this was not so. Having now found out that all people enjoy their brands as much as I do mine, I thank them for informing me otherwise and hope that everyone can have a six-pack of their favorite brand as soon as they wish.

Ok, I’ve had a bit of time to think, and having read these great responses, I have come to the following conclusions about my origional posts:

Re: feeling sorry for gays. I feel sorry that we live in a world where ANYONE should have to face abuse or hostility because of somethiing over which they have no control.I don’t feel sorry for gays being gay cause they arn’t.

Re: The diffirent types of sex and the pleasure gained thereof…to use a metaphor I just thought of and want to use 'cause I like it…

I drink a certian kind of soda. I very much enjoy this type, and know that there are others who prefer a diffirent brand. Not having tried those other brands, I simply wished that everyone’s brand could be as satisfying to them as mine is to me, and I felt sorry for them if this was not so. Having now found out that all people enjoy their brands as much as I do mine, I thank them for informing me otherwise and hope that everyone can have a six-pack of their favorite brand as soon as they wish.

What a charming non-homophobic post! No hint of sarcasm there, since most times someone posts an “Am I being homophobic/racist/sexist?” they normally are being (whatever).

I see that Sam Hell has already reached a conclusion here, but just to pitch in: The idea of having sex with a guy just doesn’t do it for this lesbian! Straight folks enjoy what they do in bed and so do we.

I like the soda analogy :slight_smile:

Once again, I am impressed, both with Sam Hell, and with the denizens of this board. It’s really heartening to see this sort of conversation take place, openly, honestly, and compassionately, and I’m proud to be a part of a community which is capable of this kind of exchange.

I too think it is great to see this sort of conversation.
I personally think real homophobia comes from the fear of being gay…ergo, those who are the worst, generally are trying the hardest to deny what they are feeling.
Correct me if I am wrong, but if you are truly heterosexual, why would you give a flying-f what/who some other guy is doing. As a matter of fact, if I were straight, I would want all other guys to be gay…the more women for me!
However, if I saw something that scared me…well…

But SAM HELL, don’t feel pity or sorry or anything else…I knew I was gay when I was about 5 years old. I have been in a relationship now for 21 years. I could not possibly imagine a better life and, if there is such a thing as reincarnation, PLEASE let me be gay again!!!

I am in total agreement with MrVisible. Most, if not all, of the “gay” threads I’ve seen in the two months I’ve been here have degenerated into flamewars. This was very refreshing. Finally, someone who just wants to know and understand, not flame and propagate intolerance. :slight_smile:

And sorry if I was too explicit about my sexual practices and history, but a sex question was part of the OP.

  • s.e.

Thank you all very much for your kind words. It’s allways been part of my philosophy that if you don’t know/understand something, ask somebody (or in this case somebodies) who does.

I myself am constantly amazed at the ability of people both to attack others for their “diffirences” and of people to deal with said crap and still have a happy and satisfying life. If I were gay, I don’t think I could do half so well. I salute you and thank you again for your help. At the risk of sounding self-important and pretentious, you have helped to make me a better person.

Thank you all very much for your kind words. It’s allways been part of my philosophy that if you don’t know/understand something, ask somebody (or in this case somebodies) who does.

I myself am constantly amazed at the ability of people both to attack others for their “diffirences” and of people to deal with said crap and still have a happy and satisfying life. If I were gay, I don’t think I could do half so well. I salute you and thank you again for your help. At the risk of sounding self-important and pretentious, you have helped to make me a better person.

And I apoligize for the double posts (in advance if this one does too :slight_smile: )

Thanks for the answer, Scott. Yeah, the “porn mirrors real life” was tongue-in-cheek, I thought obviously enough that I didn’t bother with a smiley to stress that. I remain mildly curious about what “real gay guys” do during sex as a usual thing – and suspect that the answer varies from person to person, as you and Hastur were kind enough to imply in your posts, for which I thank you.

Well, I can go into more detail… :wink: But I’m leaving work in 15 minutes, so I’ll consider posting that when I get home. Everyone knows I love discussing my sex life… :rolleyes:

Some poster: “Ever hear of AIDS???!???!???!??!???!???”
scott evil: “Gee, no, what’s that? Do you mean those caramel diet things? Ayds, they were called?” :smiley:

  • s.e.

Lord, bro’, don’t do it if you see a likelihood of that happening again! I was just gratifying my curious streak…

That made me snicker… It was kind of hilarious how that went down - at least for me. :smiley:

  • s.e.

Sam Hell, I’m surprised no one else has mentioned this yet, but our esteemed and respected poster Esprix has several Ask The Gay Guy threads, of which this is only the latest. I’ve found them a good place to find answers to questions which I haven’t quite dared ask.

Thanks for being open minded.
CJ

About time someone called me to this party. :wink:

Esprix

Yes, you’re prejudiced. Who isn’t? I know that I am. I was brought up by liberal, hippy parents who prided themselves on teaching their children that all people are born with equal rights to respect, understanding and compassion. So we all walked around patting ourselves on our backs for our marvellous levels of empathy and education. It wasn’t until I was asked to leave home that I began to question everything I knew about my parents, and what I thought I’d learnt about myself.

I discovered I am racially prejudiced - on looking for a new doctor to register with, I felt uncomfortable that the majority of the names in Yellow Pages were Pakistani. I found myself actually going through the list discarding names until I got to a traditionally ‘white’-sounding surname. I’d grown up in an exclusively white neighbourhood and had never had to even ask myself whether my political views on the evils of bigotry should be applied to myself. I knew the theory, but in practice, I failed. It shocked and scared the crap out of me.

I recently discovered that I paid more attention to my parents’ masked-but-still-apparent feelings concerning organised religion, rather than to their soundbite ‘Everyone has a right to choose for themselves what they will believe in’ ethical teachings. But then I fell in love, not only with a Christian, but with a creationist Christian. When he called Evolutionists ‘a bunch of monkey-f*ckers’ and I finally realised the depth of his belief, I actually questioned if I could be with him, someone (in my mind) that deluded. My whole ‘I respect your personal faith, no matter what I think of your Church (my feelings on which I will keep to myself)’ standpoint flew out the window in a second.

Hell, I’m even homophobic, probably moreso than a lot of the straight people I know. Even after the whole ‘Gender Studies courses, GLB committee, Pride marches, Sit-ins’ activities of my youth, I still get icked-out by gay men on almost a daily basis. I’ll go into this long rant about ‘setting a good example’ for a good ten minutes before I realise what I’m saying and give myself a swift verbal and mental kick up the butt. I know so much better than that, but still, my prejudices pop up every now and then to remind me how much of a flawed person I am.

My point? That by recognising your prejudices for what they are - a lack of knowledge or experience, not something that has basis in the real world outside of what you subconciously fear or feel uncomfortable with - and acting on your realisations: asking questions and listening to the answers (something you show yourself to be doing here, in this thread), educating yourself and allowing your opinions to be clarified or altered; then you’re doing more to prevent continuing prejudice than a lot of people who consider themselves to be liberals, many of whom are more than a little self-congratulatory and complacent (myself included). It’s easy to think you’re fine with everything and everyone around you. It’s a lot harder to admit you might have preconceived notions which simply may not stand up to closer scrutiny, and to concern yourself with finding out more. You have nothing but my respect and admiration for doing so.
Oh, and what Hastur said. Getting poked is AHHHH so very nice. I’ll poke when absolutely necessary or if the need is surprisingly upon me, but generally I’d rather experience pleasure from two of the favourite areas of my body rather than just one. I’ve had man/woman sex on more than one occasion, and for me, it certainly is not the way to receive the most physical pleasure. For me, it’s always been just another indicator that I am just a big homo:D

Wow. I talk too much. That was only supposed to be a single-short-paragraph post.

How embarrassing.

< straight woman timidly raises hand > I love anal sex, and I don’t have a prostrate; also, I don’t like receiving oral sex. So, whatever ‘flavor’ is best for you may have less to do with your sexual orientation than the fact that you’re an individual, and individuals have glorious differences.