Dollhouse 1/15 "Hollow Man"

Well, there it is. At least we know how things end in the current year and that should take us to 2020.

Thoughts?

Whoa.

Harry Lennix really shone in this one. I don’t know about anyone else, but I though the ending was sensational. A legitimate and logical tying up of the series, but it does pretty much grenade any future chance of a revival.

In two weeks: ‘Epitaph 2’, then that’s all she wrote. I am sad.

I mus admit I though last weeks tease was a fake (that Boyd was there, but not the co-founder)

Brian

Best Topher impression ever.

Me too. I guess I get it. I mean, it works that it was him and he did a good job playing the role.

How was Echo the key to everlasting life? If they take her vaccine, wouldn’t they just be unimprintable and die in due course?

I thought Boyd wanted to get his own personality inside of her, along with his friends.

Indeed. It was so good, it sounded dubbed.

By the way, it is indeed 2 weeks to the finale due to the Haiti telethon.

That was good, but it was way too rushed. Which is understandable, but I would’ve liked it stretched out to two episodes.

But the return of Victor-Topher makes up for any wrong doing. I hope the finale explains what happens after this episode, in terms of the war starting.

If you saw next week’s (or two weeks hence) teaser:

There were scenes from 10 years later, when the war starts (I guess the surviving Rossum corp managed to reinvent the tech, or had off-site backups, or something). There also were what looked like scenes of them from their haven (where they all went to in Epitaph One) planning a counter-attack with some tech-neutralizing/tech-reversing gizmos that Topher subsequently invented.

The only thing I can figure wrt Echo/Carolyne was that Boyd was actually trying to prevent the coming apocolypse - or be able to create a group of people that could not be imprinted. His motivations seemed skewed - he seemed both wanting to prevent the coming stuff and to be on the “right” side of it if/when it did come.

Yup. Crazy. Very crazy. Which makes sense - I mean, it’s a Whedon show. If the smartest characters in the room say that someone else is crazy, they’re probably right. Which means Boyd isn’t rational.

BTW, Boyd’s death was cold. Man.

So, wait - when was the last time Claire was Claire? When she had her romantic last dinner with Boyd - that wasn’t Clyde, was it? (BTW, just notice the almost-rhyme of the names. Cute!)

So, if Claire was in love with Boyd, and then he wiped her somehow, there’s a problem - in Epitaph One, it seemed like she’d been sticking around all those years, in part, because she still loved Boyd and hoped he’d come back. But since he’s (a) evil and (b) very, very dead, that can’t be the case.

It’s a shame that it seems like Clyde was the one who offed Bennet - I think it would have been much more interesting if Claire/Whiskey had done it of her own free will. (Whatever that means.)

It’s probably really sick that I laughed out loud, huh?

It was (almost) distractingly amazing.

That whole aspect of the plot indeed seems a bit of a mess. Not that I didn’t like the ep overall, understand. Anyway, as someone else mentioned, there was obviously a rush to tie up the loose ends in the face of cancellation. I would guess that the writers started with what they wanted the climax to be (The Big Bad as a doll and going ‘Boom’), and just sort of jimmied things to get there, while still remembering to throw some 180-degree twists in at the commercial breaks, in the Whedon fashion.

Mellie’s, too. Bit of a scorched earth aspect to the way they were closing out the series.

A few things:
As for Caroline being the source of ‘immortality’, I think maybe he meant it in the sense that it would prevent your mind/personality from simply being wiped out by anyone with the laser/imprinting gun. Being turned into another person is pretty much the equivalent of the first person dying. – especially since no one has said anything about the gun storing the original person in any way.
Second, I think I looked away at the wrong point. A) DeWitt refuses to use Melly’s trigger phrase. B) The phrase comes over the intercom into the air conditioning room C) there’s a fast bit that explains this? Like Clyde used a recording? Had a gun to someone else’s head to coerce DeWitt? What?

Third: I’m not clear: whose imprint was in Saunders at the end?
Fourth: Did anyone else think that following up a looong physical fight between Echo and Saunders with yet another physical fight between Echo and Boyd was, I dunno, too repetitive/anticlimactic?
Fifth: Okay, the explosion was big enough that a fireball chased Echo all the way out down the corridor and out – on the street floor even though the explosion was on a higher floor – and yet the Rossum building did not seem to show so much as a single blown out window when they scanned over it later?

Sixth: We’re supposed to believe all these people playing with high tech, who make and use backup copies of the imprints all the time, never even consider the obvious futility of destroying one computer in terms of deleting dangerous knowledge???

On your second - he used a recording from earlier there was a quick scene showing the recording of the season 1 scene on a monitor…

I’ll try to respond to the ones I have thoughts on.

  1. They used the security cameras(I think) from Paul or Mellie’s apartment when Mellie got turned on the first time. I guess they had a recording of the phone conversation. I assume having Adelle do it fresh is best, but a recording sufficed.

  2. A bit overdone, but it’s like a Buffy or Angel kind of thing.

  3. Yeah, the building showed no signs of destruction, which was lame.

  4. Right. Even Clyde should survive in one way since he has 20 bodies ready for his memory. Like Boyd said, once it is invented…it can not be uninvented.

By the way, what this show taught me and hopefully TV producers?

If you have an Eliza Dushku show, the rest of the cast will probably be more interesting, central, and out-act her the entire time. I love her, but I can’t think of any episode that wasn’t at its best when it centered around “non-Echo” characters, including this one.

I do kind of enjoy that Boyd was actually trying to save the world, and it looks like the plucky cast thwarted that mission.

They all tried to do their best.

:smiley: