My feelings exactly. I was afraid I was about to get shot in the head, instead I got shot in the foot. I’ll be limping for the next four years, in pain but happy to be alive…
A moronic partisan?
So now we’ll have an actual corporation as President.
Neither, because a Secret Service codename shouldn’t be descriptive of the subject it’s designed to conceal.
Trump and Clinton are both reprehensible people. Anyone who believes that either one is a decent human being, has been listening to more propaganda than news.
I held my nose, and voted for the lesser evil. Much to my surprise, the lesser evil won the Electoral College.
The talking heads on TV were very smug on Tuesday morning. The looks of abject horror on their faces Tuesday night were pretty funny.
Before getting hysterical about a Trump presidency, one should bear in mind that he made his money in real estate. He is used to haggling. When you haggle, you ask for far more than you can possibly get. Then, when you settle for less, your opponent is overjoyed, because he thinks he has chiseled you down.
Are you fucking serious? :rolleyes:
You mean it isn’t propaganda that makes you take the laughably ridiculous position that Clinton is evil and more reprehensible than Trump?
On thinking about it, I apologize for the language I used above. I’m not going to be myself for a long time.
I’ll own it. I predicted a Clinton landslide on this very board, and I was about as wrong as it is possible to be. Apparently I know jackshit about politics. I despise Clinton, and refused to vote for her–I voted for Johnson–but I was stunned as the results rolled in last night.
There’s an old saying about how the people get the government they deserve. If Donald Trump is what we deserve…I think I’m going to start rooting for a giant asteroid to take out the planet.
I am glad our despair can be such a source of amusement for you. What kind of person celebrates another’s sadness? :rolleyes:
I can agree with your assessment. Lots of people feel left behind economically and feel the government is beholden to wealthy interests.
However when people bring this up, it isn’t the fact that people are upset about these things that confuses us. That is why progressives supported Bernie so strongly. For the same reason Trump won support from working class people. Economics.
What we can’t figure out is why people think Trump will fix it. Trump has no real plans. He can’t stem the tide of automation. Do his supporters think a billionaire with a history of opposing labor unions and stiffing contractors will stand up for the working class. Do they really believe a business man who failed repeatedly will fix the economic issues?
That is what we can’t figure out. If you are concerned about economic inequality or regulatory capture, why would Donald Trump and the gop fix the issue?
Other than opposing immigration, which drives down wages, I don’t get it.
Maybe two posts for my thoughts. For one, I can kind of relate to the feelings of blue collar workers who constantly get portrayed as idiots in the media. I am a blue collar worker I suppose. I have a degree with college minors is mathematics and physics. I won as good a scholarship as can be won and would be an engineer today had I come from a family that would have allowed me to go to school somewhere other than Bible Beater U, where getting an education is some kind of scandal and gets you nothing but a crowd of enemies, but I digress.
Point is, I may not be as well informed as a college professor, but I am educated and actually rather well-read. Between my main job and side projects, I earn a 6 figure income. I am not some kind of tycoon by a longshot, but materially speaking I literally want for nothing.
I’d appreciate it if journalists would quit portraying people who work for a living as a bunch of idiots. On that point, I can relate to a lot of Trump voters.
OTOH, I don’t see how Trump and the GOP are going to help the desperate Rust Belt people who voted for them. They want to cut taxes for the wealthy, do away with the ACA, Social Security and Medicare. I don’t see how things will improve for them.
Someone explain that one to me please.
No, really, answer me.
That tragic thing is that you have no idea that you’re under the sway of nonsense misinformation.
This is why she lost. Intelligent people working under facts that aren’t real.
I’ve seen a claim by a woman that a dude grabbed her ass in an elevator and said that now that Trump is president they could do anything they want to women.
But I suppose she could be lying.
I’ve seen people who say they’ve faced slurs, effigy hangings, and such at their colleges, and everyone else just shrugs or says nothing.
But I suppose they could all just be wrong about connecting it to the election.
Still, I’ve thought I’d just like to see more people be honest about what they really think of others based on race or sexual orientation or whatever to their faces. I suppose I got my wish. I hate that I got it this way, though.
Winners. You know just as well as I do that if HRC had won last night, the other half of the country would be celebrating, and it would include plenty of gloating over Republicans.
And further, what happens when all these passed off people realized the GOP won’t help them, as I suspect?
“Every nation gets the government it deserves.” - Joseph de Maistre
The interesting thing is, Clinton didn’t lose by much in several key states and she’s winning the popular vote, though not by much, so it was a pretty close election generally speaking. But Trump’s win over Clinton shows at least in part that economics and fear about the direction of the country, plus a huge desire for change from politics as usual, were much bigger concerns than those in power could understand. The ironic thing is that the Republican party has been promising change to its people for a long time and not delivering, as well some in the party like the Tea Party being the ones doing the obstructing, so though the Democrats have lost out big time here, the Republican elites could end up getting their asses handed to them at some point if Trump’s election ends up changing the direction of the Republican party
How very Trumpian of you. I realize you may actually take that as a compliment.