Suspended for 30 days.
Which means, after 30 days she’s not suspended.
That means, for anyone with basic reading comp, that it is tem.por.ary.
Yeesh.
You misquoted Ed. The actual goes goes “we’ve suspended Tuba as an SDMB administrator for 30 days and revoked her posting privileges for a like period.” I don’t know how else one can interpret that, as he makes it clear that once the 30 day suspension has concluded, TubDiva will return to the boards as an administrator complete with posting privileges.
Ed had also preceded that comment with “the review having been completed” which suggests that the Chicago Reader is not “mulling it over.”
Unless you have read differently in e-mail communication with SDMB staff, your interpretation is contrived.
Suspension with a given time limit – which is what we have here – is undoubtedly temporary in any normal context.
Now, yes, minds could change in the intervening 30 days. That’s true, but hardly relevant. We can only deal in the facts we know right now.
I wasn’t strictly referring to the question. 
So could you help me translate ‘for 30 days’ from condescending bitch into English? Because it’s obvious that ‘for 30 days’ means something to you that it doesn’t mean to the rest of the English speaking population of the world.
Either be a salad-tosser like you or have a ‘hate agenda’ eh?
Could you pull your tongue out of the mods’ collective asshole long enough to understand that ‘for 30 days’ does not mean ‘permanent change’?
not wanting to comment on the original topic at all (and staying way the fuck over here about the basic issue at hand as well), perhaps a small comment on the semantic issue that seems to have reared its head currently, between catsix, & DDG.
I believe that Zotti’s post clearly states that Tuba is to be suspended from admin duties (except the Weird Earl and a few other tasks he outlined) and posting for 30 days. That would render it into (generally speaking) a “Temporary” suspension, where it is expected that after the 30 day period of time, her status would again revert to full admin (whatever that may mean by then) and posting abilities.
Where I believe DDG may be focusing is that IIRC, there have been occasions (and I believe that vanilla was one, though I’m not willing to swear on it) where the original announcement was “Suspended” (for a period of time) wherin the poster could request to be reinstated, but that the reinstatement wasn’t necessarily automatic, and in some cases the suspension actually went directly to ‘banned’.
However that type of thing does not appear (at least to me and most other posters) to be the case wrt Tuba.
So while I believe that catsix is correctly interpreting Zotti’s remarks and the status of Tuba, that it is in all senses a ‘temporary’ and not expected to last past 30 days, IIRC, it is not w/o precedent that “suspension” (even w/a number of days attached) did not automatically mean that the poster was automatically reinstated, thus DDG’s belief that ‘we don’t know now’
This part bothered me as well. If they don’t want discussion of the subject, then the admins/mods will have to resist the temptation to have the last word in threads that they lock for “inappropriate discussion”, or whatever you want to call it. If you don’t want people to argue about it, then don’t try to win the argument and then shut it down. Just shut it down.
It seems to me.
Oh, and DDG - maybe you wanna ease it back a notch, if you don’t mind my saying so. “Suspended for thirty days” is more or less synonymous with “temporarily suspended”.
Maybe that decision will be changed sometime between now and then. I hope not, but for now, thirty days = temporary.
Regards,
Shodan
Oh hell, wring explained it better than me. Again.
Regards,
Shodan
So you agree TubaDiva should have her privileges revoked?
Or is it more likely that you simply didn’t bother to actually read what is written?
I’d say neither. Looks to me like fighting sarcasm with sarcasm.
Perhaps what DDG should be arguing is that the 30-day suspension is more preliminary in nature than temporary. If a 30-day suspension were followed by a decision to institute lifetime ban, it wouldn’t make the suspension any less temporary. But it would seem like less a slap on the wrist, no?
There’s a small bit of evidence to suggest this, but it isn’t terribly compelling in the light of later comments by management. I get the sense that the deliberation is finished and the suspension will be 30 days, as stated, followed by reinstatement of privileges, as implied.
No, she should not be arguing this point at all. She should just concede, because she’s arguing a silly point and she’s wrong.
Sam
She’s arguing it in a silly way, but that doesn’t make it a silly point. The language isn’t quite clear. At this moment, all we know that the suspension of privileges will last a minimum of 30 days. We can’t be 100% sure that the period won’t be extended or made permanent. This is a simple exercise in logic, nothing complicated about it.
I agree that the most likely interpretation is a temporary 30-day suspension, but the wording of the announcement does allow for reasonable doubt. The only people being silly here are the ones who claim to know with certainty what’s going to happen when the 30 day period has expired. There’s simply no way to know, unless you have ESP.
It is a silly point - there is nothing to lead us to believe that this suspension is anything buy temporary. ESPECIALLY since she is still listed a forum leader for ATMB. I don’t see how anyone can come to any other conclusion about Ed’s statement of “30-day suspension” but that it is temporary and at the end of the suspension period she will be re-instated in full.
I can only hope that I’m proven to be wrong, but I highly doubt it.
good grief.
let me suggest to one and all that the difference between:
“absolutely not possible, 100% guarenteed”
and
“almost definately, most probably, most likely, damn likely” is really not worth quibbling about.
Is it 100% **impossible **that the powers that be will change their minds? no.
but is it likely? I’d say no, again.
It seems that both sides agree that it’s at least most likely that the suspension will be for 30 days.
move on.
damned lefty
Fascist!
but Im right handed… 
Ah, so right writes right?
well I have heard that two wrongs make a right, so maybe two wrings make a wright?