I specified NBC’s map, not AP. NBC is showing Biden ahead.
There is something a bit funky with NBC’s GA tally, however. When I hover over GA, it first shows Biden 2K behind, then after about 10 seconds the values swap and he’s shown ahead.
exactly, although I have only seen CNN do that. Make it simple. Trump has one path, win PA and everything else except NV.
Unless I have forgotten some little detail
I’m looking at their map right now, and it shows Biden behind in PA by 24K (which is what everyone else is showing, too). I suspect that it was a momentary glitch.
FWIW, Carville very definte BIden wins PA by substantial margin, GA by a couple thousand but not until the morning
I had a busy day today and couldn’t keep up with the thread (or news). But I kind of wanted to know the news and discussion as it happened so I could know the full context rather than just jumping right into the current discussion, so I just read about 1000 posts in a row. That’s gotta be some kind of record.
I don’t think so. In that case it will be Republicans 50, Dems 48 and Ind 2. But I am just guessing.
I’m showing the same now. Never mind. Damn.
Im putting your prize in the mail, but it’s gotta go through Carson City first, so it may be a while.
You are awesome!
I have been wasted for 2 days, been refreshing my comp every couple of minutes and haven’t puked once. Hows that for a record?
That NBC map puts Biden on top of Trump in Georgia even though he’s behind in the vote count. I think because it’s just sorting based on rounding 49.4% as being equal, and then order them probably in alphabetical order. Bad design. Made me think that Biden had flipped the current count in Georgia.
Faithless electors happen all the time.
There were seven in 2016, and three more had their votes invalidated by state laws.
Ron Paul ran for president three times with no success, but he finally received his first electoral vote in 2016.
MSNBC is reporting that Clayton County, in Georgia (Atlanta area), is going to release additional results yet tonight, apparently around 4000 total. Assuming that Biden gets a similar high proportion in these to what he’s gotten earlier tonight, that may put him past Trump in Georgia tonight.
I’m Canadian and I’m pretty sure faithless electors are impossible here so I am curious about how it works in the US. We’re talking about a scenario where Biden wins 270 or more electoral votes but someone in the Electoral College decides that they want Trump to be President instead? And they can do this and it would be binding? That seems like it would be a very bad idea for that person, the country and the system at large. I know Trump has many sycophants but is it likely that some utterly shameless person would put everything on the line to throw the election to Trump after he lost?
At some point the Republican Party has to approach Trump and tell him to get with the times, no? He’s not just embarrassing himself, he’s also forcing others to come along for the ride. Although I guess that ship sailed a long time ago. Still…
Give it time. Last I heard PA should flip by 3-4 am.
Depends on the state, but yeah. And they don’t necessarily need to switch from Biden to Trump - the President-elect needs 50%+1 to win. Anything less sends it to the House for a per-state delegation vote.
Which I really, really should not try to stay up for.
See you all sometime in the morning. Probably not early, I’m already going to bed too late.
EPisodes.
As I pointed out before your post there is no need to change any rules retroactively or otherwise because currently–this election–a faithless elector can not be stopped in the majority of states.
I think you are confusing the issue re: states can not retroactively change the manner in which they select their electoral college voters.
That’s not what we’re talking about. We are talking about an EC voter not voting for whom they are pledged to vote or in other words, a faithless elector. For this topic it does not matter how that EC voter was selected which is what you were thinking of.
Also, it doesn’t matter what the EV score is, a faithless elector could happen regardless.
and EP records, do they even exist anymore with the comeback of vinyl? I imagine they do
This. Good night everyone.