Enterprise-Carpenter Street spoilers

A singularly uninspiring episode, given that it’s three days later and we still haven’t gotten the thread onto the second page. :stuck_out_tongue:

The sudden-time-travel thing (walk through the door, and poof) was kinda cool, but for some reason it made me suspicious. So over the next few minutes, I watched to see if I was right, and I think I am. And it ruined the show for me.

The storyline is a throwaway. Nothing really accomplished; we go back to the previous stalemate. No forward movement. Blah blah blah.

So what really was the point of this episode?

Saving money.

It obviously wasn’t Detroit; it was just an industrial suburb of Los Angeles. Shot at night, no less, to hide the distant palm trees. No money on building complicated sets; just dress a warehouse a little bit. No fancy special effect for the time-travel leap. A couple of Xindi costumes. A couple of phaser shots. Two guest actors, a couple of stunt guys, and a handful of extras.

Translation: Cheap.

Seriously. Look at it. The street scenes were obviously shot guerrilla style: camera in the back seat, actors in the front, and they drive around in regular traffic. No tow rig, no special lighting, nothing like that. They had generic prop-closet beer in the guy’s fridge. They made up a clunky and obviously fake menu at the fast-food board. The most expensive prop in the show was the big “bio-reactor” device, and that was just a big silver box on a cement-mixer stand with a large parabolic reflector from an oversized heater in the middle.

Then the actual plot, such as it is, winds up with a rooftop chase, jumping over an alleyway, and a quick fistfight by a fan. What is this, Kolchak: The Night Stalker?

The moments of cute comedy, with T’Pol considering fast food or Archer jumping away from a dog in a car, are totally negated by a calorie-free plot and sloppy, sloppy writing. Example: They get in a shootout on the roof. Do they stop to think for a moment what might happen if one of their phaser rays misses both the Xindi and that little brick shack he’s hiding behind? Wouldn’t it go zipping off into the Los Angeles — er, I mean, Detroit — sky? And maybe hit something or somebody else? Aren’t they concerned about that at all? They should be, considering what a big deal they made out of setting their phasers to “kill” because “stun” has no effect on a Xindi warrior.

Or another example: They steal a car with basically no effort, checking only for alarms and animals. That car starts to run out of gas. They then worry about obtaining fuel, which means obtaining currency, which means stealing from a bank (and how does Archer know what an ATM is, anyway?) and introducing possible timeline complications. Seems a whole lot simpler just to use the fancy computer gizmo to slip a digital mickey to a fuel pump, or, even better, pull over and steal another car. If you have to buy your fuel with cash, you have to interact with a local, which seems like it should be kept to a minimum. But the writers just aren’t thinking about what they’re doing, and as a result the characters behave like morons.

Sorry. Stupid plot and an overall vibe that screams “budget conscious.” Total waste of an hour.

I just figured it was becuase nobody’s at home this weekend.
Well, I’m about to go to the mall. Wish me luck.

I think SFG is playing them both. The whole Xindi destroying humanity thing is SFG’s way of keeping Enterprise out of his buisness. I’m also guessing the Delphic expanse didn’t exist in TNG, TOS, DS9, and VOY timelines. SFG constructed the spheres in the future, and sent them back in time and let the expanse form as a result of the werid gravty they give off. Its all an obstacle course to keep Enterprise out of the way for as long as is possible.
Who is SFG anyway? Lor? Evil Picard? Bearded Spock? Intelligent Cloud of Methane?

Bearded Spock is dead, unless the Intendent (mirror Kira) lied.

Lor was disassembled, was he not?

I think it’s Westley, maybe with testosterone injections.

I hope it doesn’t turn out that there’s some gigantic reset button by the end of Season 3.

You mean, Patrick Duffy might step out of Archer’s zero-G shower?

I think Future Guy will end up being Archer. And then Archer will look at Archer and say “Hey, that damn Archer!”
Either that, or Future Guy is the Statue of Liberty. “You Manicacs! You blew it all up! Damn You! Damn you all to Hell!”

What? No Chow-chow?

That tray o’ fries looked like it must have come from In N’ Out.

Did Archer wolf his down while we weren’t looking?

it was Detroit, no In N’ Out there (west coarst chain) (But it may have actually been In N’ Out since they filmed it in LA) (this leads to a temporal causality loop) (i like putting sentences in parentheses, it’s like they are all in neat little packages!) (there is no sentence in these parentheses, honest.)

WTF is a “west coarst”?

Haven’t had a chance to see the entire episode yet! I was at my Dad’s for Thanksgiving, and there (Philadelphia) the local UPN station showed a 76ers game, with ST:E coming on when the game ended (bah, it came on about 9:45 pm). I did get to watch the last half of the show, and hoped to catch the entire show on my return home (DC area), only to find that UPN 20 here was airing the Maryland-Hofstra game Sat. at 8 when they normally re-run Enterprise. GRR!

I did like what I saw of the show, though. Especially thought that the ending was good; they’re definitely giving them more to do this season. Wonder what they’re going to do with it!

more later … when hopefully I will have found a re-airing. :slight_smile:

That’s a pretty damned sleazy blood bank, given that one of their donors is a street hooker.

Hell, the local Red Cross won’t even let me take a trip to Toronto.

(I’m one of the two blood types they didn’t get! So, after the Xindi bio-holocaust, I will survive, to rule over the post-apocalyptic wasteland with a harem of AB+ and B- concubines!)

That’s what I mean. It’s probably an homage to In N’ Out. Those fries were well done, which come from the Secret Menu.

[How do you feel about brackets?]

:eek:

Faulty pronoun reference in above post! [Nomad]Faulty! Faul-teeee![/Nomad]

sigh

P.S. I miss Kn*ckers.

Tars’ post is starting to look like an algebraic equation.

The one to the left of the East coarst.

Jeeez.

Don’t get upset, Nomad.
We will make the first Star Trek motion picture about you and call it,
“Where Nomad Has Gone Before”.

(x[sup]2[/sup]+23xy+4y[sup]2[/sup])(x[sup]2[/sup]-34y)

(MuHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!)

equals what?
Gotta have another one, too.

Unless it’s Xindi Math 1300.

HUT!

HUT!
[Rice University football team]

It’s a secret. only during the full moon will the answer be given.