Hmmm very disapointing last two weeks. Normally I have defended Enterprises take on teh Vulcans but this one did not work for me at all. Geez the way they did those flash backs I almost thought the guy she was after or the one she killed had raped her. Of course if she had an emotional breakdown its possible that Vulcans are much more dangerous when they do.
Still why hasn’t any logic been used more by our Vulcan friends lately? If T’Pol is starting to get the heebeejeebies shouldn’t she meditate, refocus or try to use logic even a little before she loses it. At least make the effort instead of being a wreck from the start.
Trip as Captain didn’t work. f he is unable to make any command decsisions why is he A) an officer or B) the Cheif engineer. The cheif doesn’t necessarily have to be the best qualified to fix the engines but he does have to be a leader, especially in crisis situations.
“Cheif the warp core is in breech, we are venting plasma into the coridors and the gizmo that keeps the glue from melting on our model, er ship is failing…”
I really don’t want to get into this, but logically speaking, it did make more sense to send T’Pol. She a) knows the mark well enough to have nearly caught him before, and b) was much closer to the mark and could concievably retrieve him before he could skip out of the port. To the Vulcan mind, she shouldn’t have any emotional issues to deal with in the situation and therefore would have to be the best choice.
Anywho, yes, there were no surprises, but it’s Star Trek: there never are. I liked this episode quite a bit.
It was okay I guess. Disappointing still. I was glad to see T’Pol get emotional - a nice change from the robotic bit she does most of the time. I realized what else it is about her that bugs me (besides the cat suit, fish lips, and boobs) – with all her dialogue in this one, I realized her voice just grates on my nerves – she’s trying to lower her voice or keep it at the monotone, but she sounds hoarse and I just I wanted her to stop talking. I was disappointed that Trip wasn’t more decisive. When Archer’s there, Trip is always second-guessing and arguing with him, and I thought this would be his big chance. Oh well, I’ll keep watching in hopes they get better.
I thought it was one of the better ones of the season.
However…
I think they wussed out in having Archer and company find the bio-toxins at the end. They should have left it morally ambiguous and had the story revolve around the need to fulfill one’s duties regardless of personal feelings. Leave the audience not knowing if Menos is a good guy or a bad guy and let them make up their own minds about T’Pols internal conflict.
I did not get to see the any of this episode except for the first few minutes. The scene I did see was of some people at what looked to be some sort of settlement. They watched as a shuttle circled the settlement and land. That was all I saw before control of the television was wrested away from me.
Anyway, the settlement. That set looked extremely familiar. As if it had been used in another series…Voyager, perhaps. Did anyone else notice this?
I’ve decided that Jolene Blalock is a really good actress. Not just “good actress” in the “hot babe” sense, but in the “good actress” sense. Even wrapped up in a parka she’s good.
Playing a character with repressed emotions is harder than it looks. In fact, try it sometime, try to go all day without any emotions. I’ve tried it, and it’s hard. Call your mom, that’s a real test. Read this thread, but no smiling, no getting annoyed at the nitpickers whining about deuterium, listen to the Enterprise Theme Song. Go read Wesley Crusher’s weblog. Watch Canadian TV.
If you can do all that in a calm detached manner, then you are allowed to complain about her acting. Otherwise, join us, the unwashed, the easily entertained, the people with nothing better to do Wednesdays at eight (or Friday at eight, for that matter).
Ch(cant wait for next weeks episode, need to get some more Jiffy Pop)uck
I’ll complain about her acting all i want (which is not very much,) but i haven’t seen this one yet, or last weeks for that matter, (need to get around and watch my tape!) She can feel free to criticize my DNA sequencing abilities if she so chooses.
Chuck beat me to the defense…I don’t envy her role here.
“Okay, Jolene, remember, do NOT change your facial expression at any time…okay, camera, ACTION!”
Buster Keaton overcame this liability by becoming master of the cinematic pratfall. Maybe they should start throwing banana peels around in front of T’Pol.
I totally, totally agree. I liked this episode okay until the very end. “Ooo, moral ambiguity, questioning motivation, agony, agony… Oh, he’s really a bad guy after all. Ice cream for everybody!”
[QUOTE] Originally posted by Knckers*
**Nice to see Travis get some airtime, BTW.**Except that all he did was stand around. He was right there, and Archer talked to T’Pol about him in the third person. “Do you and Travis have everything you need?” And I think it was in that scene that I noticed Mayweather is standing by a console with the group, looking down at the controls, and I started to think about what a shitty job for an actor that must be. Get all costumed and made up, stand around while the lighting is set, take your mark, stand around, stand around some more, then take off the costume and go home without ever saying a word on camera. Week after week after week. Jeez. “Ooo, this week I get to jump over some fire! Woo hoo! Better call the 'rents!”
And didja notice, early on, when they were referring to the spent injector canisters (or whatever they were) that T’Pol found, that Archer said to her, “You’ll have to go through decon.” And then when they all go into the cargo hold, he says, “Now we’ll all have to go through decon.” Isn’t that a dirty trick? Promising the audience a stripped-down-and-slicked-up scene for later? And then not delivering?
At least next week’s episode looks pretty good. A legitimate ethical/cultural quandary without easy answers. I hope.
Man, I’m going to be pissed when Fox gives up on “Firefly.”
Oh come on Chuck - this is not live t.v. How long is a scene? 2 minutes? Yes, I could keep a straight face for a few minutes. If she/they mess up, they do another take. Big deal. Besides, I’m sure there are plenty of outtakes with her and the others cracking up. Furthermore, I don’t care how good an actress she is – the obvious pandering does not a good Vulcan make. And if a handsome, buff, half-naked male Vulcan turned up in the decon chamber with Hoshi, you’d say the same. So there.
It’s not the actors, it’s the writing. The shows are following the same routine as all the other Trek series. Build up to a climax and leave us all unfulfilled (trekkus interuptus) by having it all work out in the last five minutes. ( Yes, there were some great exceptions )
Don’t get me wrong, I like this series so far. But, it needs some shaking up. Have some things go wrong, badly wrong, and don’t figure it all out in the last five minutes. There were some great ideas presented in TNG, the animated series, even the “official” books.
And get some of the other actors in there. Trip, T’pol, Archer aren’t Kirk, Spock, Bones. That will never happen again IMHO.
The tavern reminded me of Valhalla as described in The Long Dark Tea Time Of The Soul… by Douglas Adams. I can’t wait to go skiing. ( I think I’ve said that before )
The more I think about this episode, the more irritated I get. Miss Logical Vulcan does a cursory sweep of a suspected smuggler’s cargo hold and doesn’t think the canisters might just be a cover???
“Hmmmm, the suspected smuggler said he was actually transporting canisters… Look! There are some canisters! He must be telling the truth!”
Come on! On top of that, it is revealed that he has a section of his ship cloaked by advanced holographic technology, and she still thinks he might not be a smuggler. :rolleyes:
I also very much enjoyed where Archer is pointing a weapon at the guy and says “What are you doing?” a few times as the guy slowly opens a hatch and escapes.
This ep would have been so much better if it had been left ambiguous. God forbid you actually make the audience think a little, or suspect a character made the wrong decision.
Wow, another stinker. Not as bad as last week, but bad nevertheless. Time to rename the show “Those Wacky Vulcans” It seems they are 100% more emotional then on TNG. Speaking of which, next week’s show seems to be a direct ripoff of a TNG episode (more then one actually-- one was with Riker and the alien babe that wanted his sex, the other with the cloaked team whose blind exploded).
At this point of the season I am getting worried- season two is a good deal weaker then season one. That is never a good thing.
You’ll all be glad to know that NEXT WEEK - Warning: Imaginary Spoiler coming up - we’ll see Travis get savaged by lions. And he’ll have lines! They are as follows:
AAAHHH!
No, no! Not the face!
Ow, ow, AAAAAGGGHHHH!!
At least that’s what I think will happen. But then, I wasn’t paying very good attention during the teaser. I was too busy being disappointed by the absense of the promised decon scene. Sob
How much does it suck to be Travis that he finally gets some screen time, he finally gets to kick some butt and capture the bad guy, and they don’t show it? There’s this big firefight going on, Archer and T’Pol are blazing away, they run to the other side of the room, and Travis has the guy on the floor. They didn’t even thank the guy, fer christ’s sake!
Glad to see I wasn’t the only one who gave a hearty “Woo hoo!” when Archer said T’Pol would have to go through decontam… bastards. Something else they didn’t show us…
Although I have to admit it is kind of nice that they’ve established a plausible explanation for T’Pol’s inability to control her emotions: spend enough time in the booby hatch getting shock treatments, and it’s gonna spoil some of that Vulcan impassivity.
T’Pol played by Rosanne Barr and Archer played by Gilbert Godfreid. Every time Archer starts going off about trust and feelings, T’Pol would roll her eyes and say something real snotty.
Keep Hoshi the same, but have her say everything in a real exaggerated John Wayne voice.
The rest of the crew, men and women both, have to wear TOS type minis and have killer bee antennae on their head.
If they’re gonna screw with the show, at least make it go down in flames!
Mediocre episode, but much better than last weeks (watched both in a row, will bump other thread to complain about that episode). Trip wussed out as acting captain, Malcomb should have the job, he can make decisions at least. T’Pol actually had good acting, so i won’t be ragging on her. I agree that a morally ambiguous Vulcan traitor would have made a more powerful episode (or an Ambiguolusly Gay Vulcan…). Nice to see Travis do anything. Needed more Hoshi.
Next weeks episode looked like they were retelling the story of how the Gangster planet came to be, but different, since they realized that was a different ship. It would be nice if the Horizon made a cameo with the captain being some sort of Gangster affecionado “I’m Captain Capone, your gonna be swimmin’ with the fishes if Stanford beats Cal in water polo again, Archer! Lt. Guido, give that Trip wiseguy some cement shoes!”
