No, She really does.
I’m terribly sorry that the rest of you got caught up in this.
^:dubious:^
I was asleep.
And I’m still brooding. No more ENT threads. 
Anybody else coming to this thread? ENT goes on through half of May, so at least we can enjoy thread-chatting for a while.
NCB, hope you can catch the rerun or watch your tape, if you made one.
Waugh! My VCR failed me on Friday. I missed this installment. Woe is me!
They show the rerun on Sat. or Sun. It’s on today at 5pm PST.
Otherwise, you’ll have to wait a few months.
Or get the DVDs.
Valdore (Brian Thompson), the Romulan shroud ship commander, is an Alien Bounty Hunter from X-Files.
Remans show up. Yeay.
As for the Aenar controlers of the shroud ships and sub space time lag, perhaps it’s not sub space after all. Remember ansibles? Sniggertrance? The Buggers? Psychic twins? All of these were real time ftl communication. So, the idea is a workable one. Especially since Romulans didn’t find ftl travel in the normal way, but rather through use of qantum singularities. It’s a thought, that’s all. But it does take care care of that shroud ship piloting nit.
Aw, shit. That brings up a bigger nit.
The shroud ship has warp capability. Through out the Romulan Wars and up to the time of Balance of terror, Rommies didn’t have warp of any kind. The Romulan War was faought with sublightspeed ships only. That’s how Humans eneded up winning. Any Romulan space ship from before BoT should be limited to STL only.
Unless I’m missing something. Anyone?
STL on the Rommie side, that is. Humans had FTL and thus a very real tactical advantage.
A rag tag fleet…
The visuals of the ships flying around Malcolm and tripp were very well done.
Tripp’s picking on Malcolm cements his position as one of the best Trek characters ever.
Now, let’s see what they do with this Aenar connection.
One thing I didn’t like about the episode was having the Romulans directly addressing Trip and Reed. I thought it sort of lessened their mysterious remoteness, and it seemed rather implausible–just kill the pesky humans as swiftly as possible, never mind what damage they’ve done, the ship has self-repair capabilities, you just need to stop them from doing more stuff so the ship can get on with fixing itself. And, well, it just seemed to detract from the drama of the “mysterious race no one has seen which uses remote-controlled ships to carry out sneaky, deep-laid plots” thing.
I think this might be one place where continuity be damned, they should just ignore “canon”. The whole “Romulans didn’t have FTL during the first war” thing just doesn’t make no sense. If they don’t have FTL, why would we even be messing with them? Just leave them the hell alone, it’s not like they can get out and do anything. For all practical purposes, they’d be stuck there in their own system.
Star Trek has always been very weak on issues of spatial scale. (Actually this is true of most visual–TV and movie–science fiction.)
That’s where I’ve seen him before! I kept trying to pin him to another Trek role and it was bugging me that I couldn’t make a connection.
He was also on BTVS as Luke, the Master’s lackey from the first two episodes. He appeared in season 2 as The Judge as well.
As to the warp drive issue, I ask anyone to show me the episode where anyone said “The entirety of the Romulan Fleet is powered by impulse engines only and they definitely do not have any warp capable ships.” IIRC, Scotty said they had “simple impulse” but he was referring to a single ship that may have already been battle damaged at the time. Or the Romulans were sticking to impulse because their cloak or plasma weapon drew too much power… or they were trying to fool the Enteprise crew into underestimating them… or et cetera.
Anyone thinks that the whole “alliance” thing was kind of flimsy? I mean, there’s one ship out there that has a very readable power signature, and rather than, say, following its warp trail or something, they get together over a hundred ships and go out looking. And there was no scene about getting five fleets together, or nuthin’.
I’m with Shran’s mocking “your precious alliance”.
OTOH, the music this week was good.
Well, I’m late to the party, as usual.
(missed the UPN show on Friday - had to catch it later in the weekend)
Sigh. I really do like this show.
Why do they always get better AFTER you know they are cancelled?
The BoT impulse only ship is indeed one of the silliest canon points ever, but it is canon. Athelas’ scenario works for me, tho, so maybe we can just go with that.
The other problem is the time lag problem. From TOS to VOY, mention has been made of a subspace timelag in communications. I see a very easy workaround, tho. If the next ep in this shows that the Aenar’s telepathy isn’t connected to subspace, then it shows that the writers are actually thinking about how this fits in with the rest of Trek and not just throwing out GTRs.
Remember, these nits are in place soley because they are attempting to explain Trek canon in the first place with this arc setting up an alliance that will lead to the Federation. So… if they’re going to try to be explaining canon, they damn well better keep things (even small things) within canon. That is my feeling towards this entire series, esp in regards to canon specific eps like these.
BTW, the ep was very enjoyable. I esp liked the Tripp/Malcolm interactions.
The Bird of Prey having only impulse can be (and has been) explained away as the cloaking device needing so much power that while it is in use, they’re limited to impulse only. Otherwise, it would have taken them eight years to even cross the Neutral Zone and then get back to their own Empire, not to mention getting back to Romulus itself.
And the Romulan was named Valdore? I can’t decide if that’s cool or cheesy. The new Warbird that debuted in Nemesis is the *Valdore *class. Very subtle tribute there.
That’s the sick irony of it all. What really gets me is that Moonves wouldn’t even wait until the end of February sweeps before pulling the plug. He killed the show in early Feb. knowing full well that many people would tune out once they caught the scent of death.
Good catch, Aes.
And that actually helps to underscore the point I’m being pedanticly obsessive over. If they’re going to be so canonical as to tie in having Reman guards (yes, the Nosfaratu looking guys) and a Romulan of note for a later ship class naming homage, then they should likewise be concerned with the other, sometimes bigger, aspects of canon.
Otherwise, it’s just GTRs, which make 'plant’s wife nervous.
I’m not sure I’m following. What’re you saying the gratuitous reference is here? Valdore? Remans? Rihannsu FTL travel? Shrouds?
My ESL is failing me this week, it seems.
Those will be GTRs if the big things aren’t addresed canonically. You can’t just ignore something if you’re making what you call a canonically accurate episode (or arc). Which is what Manny and Co have said they are attempting to do.
Just throwing out refs and homages doesn’t make a storyline fit inside an already established history.
Of course, all of this is simply a pre-emptive strike. The arc, indeed the season, just might surprise me and wrap things up nicely. We’ll just have to wait and see.
Thing is, if they can’t do a prequel right, it shouldn’t be done. I am beginning to think some of the others were right after all. Forget about canon and go somewhere they really haven’t been before. What that might be, I don’t know. But, we aren’t going to fix ENT with a few GTRs just splayed about willy nilly.
Little willy nilly won’t
go home
you can’t make Willy play
Willy won’t stay
Damn, my catheter fell out again.