I give it a nine just for the ending. Sort of like self satire. All the faults with the transporter stories are due to Hoshi eating some bad sushi. 
If you knew sushi like I know sushi…
Hey Tars, you’re pretty good. I said it was about battle scenes. If no one had picked up on the Gorn, I was going to have to be really obnoxious next time around. ( I was gonna use The Ultimate Computer )
Praise be to Ba’al for the Great and Mighty Tars! [gimme that goat, and a knife, oh never mind, I’ll sacrifice myself]
MOOOOOOOOOO!
Yes, I was talking in part about the reruns, but also the fact that UPN will be running Trek movies on Friday nights, which will cause a severe disruption for some of us because of That Other Show We Like To Discuss Here.
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I’ve given it a second viewing and my opinion has not changed. Pheh!
Hey if you want a Firefly thread make one. Please stop plugging the show here. I want to be angry and bitter about my own show tha hear how great another is.
“You are Great! I am Great! Nothing can stop us! See what we’ve done with your mighty Starfleet!”
-As spoken by Blacula- or was it Berman?
I’d have been here to bitch earlier, but I was too busy eating and watching football (I’m ALMOST a Real Boy!)… So now, my pathetic whinging, if a couple days late:
Oh, Mother of God on a moped, gag me with a spoon. What a lotta gagtastic tripe. Now, I’ve got nothing against tripe - sometimes it can be very entertaining. But tripe is one thing. Tripe that treats me as though I am probably an unusually slow two-year old is another thing entirely.
Well, whoda thunk it was only a dream?! I pretty much figured that had to be it, when we were five minutes from the end, and there was no sign of a resolution. “Oop,” I said, "Time for the Miraculous 30-Second Conclusion! And lo, and behold, I was not disappointed in my expectations. I was disappointed in all other respects, though.
I’d complain about Hoshi’s dad being a dolt, or Archer being the most inarticulate dingus alive, or the presence of any goo to speak of as Hoshi’s remains (I thought her molecules dipersed and spread out all over; why would they be congealed in a blob of slime?); but I cannot complain about these things, because they were imaginary. Well, shit, kinduva waste, if all the stuff we thought happened in that hour didn’t actually happen at all. Could have saved a whole lotta time, if we’d just skipped from when they beamed off the planet to Hoshi acting dumb in the transporter room at the end. And I would have gotten my pie made a lot earlier in the evening.
Question: I usually avoid nitpicking, but I have to ask about this: they keep showing the showers as using water. I thought they had sonic showers… Or are those just in the later Star Treks, and haven’t been invented yet? I get confused.
Now, DESPITE all the above ranting, I still rank this show above the moronic Klingons Trapped in a Ring of Fire one. And, actually, I wasn’t all THAT irritated by it; I just happen to be in a pissy mood right now.
Love and Kisses;
Kn*ckers
I thought they shoulda pulled ths all together in about 45 minutes, then used the rest of the time for a Big Dance Number. Panda or no, that would be cool.
But you know Morse Code, right?
Archer: Huh, THAT’S never happened before. They way that light is blinking in Morse Code. SOS? I wonder what that means.
T’Pol: No, It’s impossible. No one can get in or out of this room without us seeing and no one uses that circuit but you. And if someone was to phase shift their hand into the beam, there’s no way the phase shifted hand could interupt the beam into Morse Code. It’s just stupid. I’ll call Trip.
Archer: Look! The pattern changed! And it’s still in Morse Code! I think I’ll take a nap!
T’Pol: Good, you do that. I have to go and get my lips pumped back up, I think they have a leak. Everything tastes like industrial lubricant.
It was a lovely, lovely episode. Not even Hoshi’s actual areolas could have made it more rivetting.
-Rue.
Sure, the ending was the worst excuse for a Dr Phil induced murderous rage in a goat felching whore house, But the rest of it was pretty cool. (I’m not lying)
FTR, I liked the HoCaptain / HoDad scene that ended up being mearly a part of a HoDream. Archer’s inability to make himself clear to Pappy shows Hoashi’s own subconscious view of people’s communication skills in general, thus giving us insight into her decision to take up linguistics (as opposed to fettucini) and thus serve man in a better way.
Yeah, I made that up. The HoDad/HoCaptain dialogue was bizzarre. Like a blind date with your own cousin in drag. At least my girl cousins are cute (and easy). Scotty, my male cuz, makes a rather disturbing looking woman. Oh well…
Um,… never mind…
Dr Phil induced murderous rage in a goat felching whore house?
Man, I’d take medicine if I were you.
Lots.
Don’t worry, NoClue, I brought enough for everyone!
While watching it I thought the Morse code scene and the call to her father were pretty bad. But remember, it was all in Hoshi’s ‘dream’. So does that mean that she subconsciously thinks Archer, T’pol and her father are total idiots?
Eric
Subconciously, Hell.
Personally, I kept waiting for the whale to drop thru the atmosphere and, just before impact, think “not again”. But then, I have a brain the size of a planet, and the body of a panda. What’s not to love?
No one even mentioned the emotive emoting of Ho. Why, when she was being mesmerized by watching herself phase in and out in the mirror, I could see all of the Homotions crossing her face at once. I could see the Ho she was and the Ho she was to become. I could even see Da Ho, tho Ma Ho was kinda blurred by the “cosmetic” problem (was it a birthmark or a zit?) she was having. Now THAT is acting my friends!
Ho Ho Ho!
Ho Ho Ho!
Yes, the Green Giant and Santa have arrived, and are involved in a knife fight!
I read this thread with amusement because I stopped watching Enterprise over a month ago, and haven’t really missed it.
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Funny thing is, I lost interest in Enterprise after watching the first few episodes of Firefly. The same thing happened when I started watching Babylon 5. Suddenly, the antiseptic future on Star Trek shows didn’t seem as interesting or real.
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The Great Bird of the Galaxy (Gene Roddenberry) had a particular future utopia in his mind and wouldn’t let later producers stray too far from his ideal. Majel Barrett/Roddenberry has similar influence/control today. They called it “Technology Unchained.”
TGBotG’s real hope for the future was that continued technological progress would free us from the chores of living with illness, crime, money problems, bad government, etc… But, he was a writer first and formost and recognized a good story when he saw one. But even a great story, like Harlin llison’s “City on the Edge of Forever” had to have the drug addiction angle cleaned out of it before Gene could submit it to the even pickier thnt he censors at NBC and bosses at DesiLu.
Star Trek still suffers from that today. However, some great episodes still made it through, esp in TNG.
I say, keep it close to “T. U.” ideals, but darken it up a bit every now and then. Show some real, unresolved conflict and some impure motives and some real strife. That’s what gets watched today. Just keep the core. It wouldn’t be Star Trek without it.
Howdy Gene, hope your engines are warp capable, where ever you’ve gotten to…
my capital “E” seems to have disappeared. Ellison
Harlin Ellison
Thanks, LetterMan
Or even his brother, Harlan…
Eric
Who ever sais I culd spell?