Even Sven, your turn in the barrel!

Seconded.

Economy’s in the dumper. Maybe we can make it a general effort and take up a collection.

Richard fucking Dawkins was interviewed on BBC radio today about Christmas, and he said he loved it, and was privileged enough to have gone to a choral performance at Kings College cathedral in Cambridge and that it was an awesome experience.

Does this give you a bit more perspective as to how out of touch you are, prr?

I’m an atheist. I hate christmas. I don’t celebrate it. I don’t sing carols.

That said my wife is christian(no i will not capitalize it). She loves christmas with all the trimmings. I just showed her this thread.

She thinks anyone pushing christmas on other people are jerks.

I as usual agree.

Good thread title, though.

Right, because celebrating a holiday that’s widely observed the world around is exactly the same as falling in with whatever bizarre impulse might happen to pop into your head at any given moment. :rolleyes: Leading me to three important conclusions:

  1. The fairy on the tree in Times Square has a smaller Christmas stick up her ass than you do.

  2. One can be a qualified college professor and still formulate some really weak arguments.

  3. LMHNYCAB.

I think you are just extremely uncomfortable with anyone who doesn’t fully agree with you. I remember that post you made that was essentially “Gee whiz, how come if a girl doesn’t find a man attractive he automatically is called a creep?” I thought the post was asinine, but Even Sven was one of the few who offered anything that resembled agreeing with you. Therefore, you suddenly started gloating about it- “See? Even Sven agrees with me!! So there!!”

So you thought she was cool young lady, but now that she’s disagreed with you she’s suddenly quite the jerk , huh?

I think she was suggesting that you lighten the fuck up, it’s a party. That’s not terribly jerkish. Maybe a little, but not terribly so.

And what do you know about how much she’s improved or turned her life around? I remember I used to e-mail her every now and then in 2000 and 2001 and she was a bit of a mess. I’m so happy to see someone who got her life back. Even if she has to disagree with you every now and then.

It is of my opinion that PRR is just trying to get rises out of people with his posts and topics. In fact, I’d go so far to say that I suspect him of sock puppetry as well.

Back when Liberal paid PRR 500 dollars to leave, What Exit pitted Liberal for making that offer. In the ensuing thread, a poster named Quenten S. Smith showed up and had his very first post in said topic.

Quenten then hung around for a few days afterward making various topics and posts that were, shall we say, such like PRR’s posts and topics are. Eventually Quenten was banned…and a few months later, PRR comes back.

Nevermind the fact that Quenten’s very first post happened to be posted in that above pit thread about Liberal and PRR (and then subsequent banning) is a tad coincidental…but the fact that BOTH the names follow the same pattern (a letter followed by a skipped letter and then two following letters in alphabet order; P(q)RR, Q(r)SS) makes it even stronger of a coincidence.

Which leads me to wonder: When does a coincidence stop being a coincidence?

Besides, I’m actually a believer that there are no coincidences in life.

This is the only thing I’ve ever said on the subject and the only thing I’ll ever say. I just wish people would stop feeding the being that resides beneath the bridge.

Out of idle curiosity, why don’t you capitalize Christmas & Christian? I too am an atheist, and I capitalize Christmas, Christian, Jewish, Hanukkah, Yom Kippur, Islam, Eid ul-Fitr, Bahá’í, and Naw-Rúz. In fact, the only two proper nouns I don’t capitalize are archy and mehitabel. What makes the title and festival of the mythical son of Mary so offensive?

ETA: I hope you don’t take the above as insulting. I’m simply curious and do not mean to offend.

And aren’t you the daring little rebel, then.

As I began the thread in question, I feel obliged to observe that you are mistaking “ass-kissing” with "attempting to foster a congenial and pleasant atmosphere of discourse on the board while simultaneously expressing affection for one’s internet friends in the most practical way possible.’

Gosh, these Mods must be awfully dumb not to have caught me trolling. They inspected the IP numbers, did a careful examination of the situation, having been alerted by several sharp-eyed posters about that clever tack of moving each letter one initial–and they somehow decided that, nope, I hadnt been posting as QSS at all.

But someone had. And I think that “someone” is no longer posting here under his own name, or that of QSS anymore. Someone got his ass banned, and it wasn’t me. The clever someone tried to make it seem as though I were posting under a sock, and ended up getting himself banned. Yet some people believe what they choose to believe, like our dumb friend here with the Idle Thoughts. Oh, well, I’m certainly glad that he is never going to appear in this thread again. That’s some small consolation to me.

And I’ve certainly been provocative here, that’s very true. I sat for an hour, bored to tears, while these glurgemeisters sang their idiotic songs. I think someone may have noticed that I was bored IRL–not sure, they weren’t paying me a whole lot of attention, happily. And then I came here and posted about how bored I was. Oh, my–what provocative behavior THAT was! Imagine, first I was bored IRL and then I had to nerve to post here about how I wished I had that hour back again. I don’t know why people haven’t tracked me down and killed my pets for that outrageous behavior. There ought to be a law against posting about one’s private annoyances. I can certainly see why some posters are so outraged by what I’ve done.:rolleyes:

Outraged? Dude, you ain’t all that.

So let me understand you, if that’s possible: it’s the extent to which Christians have been successful at imposing their views on others that justifies their continuing to impose their views on others? Their religious holidays should be supported by secular organizations because–why, again? Because the secular organizations have a lot of Christians in them who can’t otherwise celebrate their religious beliefs on their own time? Because every other group’s set of beliefs is funded equally regardless of size or numbers of adherents? Or because certain religious groups are thoroughly obnoxious in their self-centered idea that there’s no harm to anyone in celebrating religious beliefs in a secular institution?

How did Dawkins respond when they asked him to sing a hymn in praise of baby Jesus, though? He just belted it out, right?

I dont believe that any crist ever existed

So no singular is involved, kinda like god. :stuck_out_tongue:

Dude. It’s a time of year when people get together, hand out presents, eat tasty but not too diet-conscious food, and sing twee songs about a cute little baby in a manger. Many of those that sing 'em entertain large reservations about whether any such thing ever happened (and many of these are ordained ministers) and a lot of the twee songs are frankly silly if not flat-out in defiance of the facts. (I Saw Three Ships Come Sailing In for a start. I mean, Jesus, Mary and Joseph with a flotilla at their command? And sailing into Bethlehem - how’d they manage that?)

I appreciate that you may only aspire to understand me to the extent that it’s possible, and I think it very modest of you to admit the limitations of your own brain, but try to follow me here: It’s a cutesie Yuletide custom. You won’t catch cooties if you sing See Him Lying In A Bed Of Straw. Stop over-thinking this and stop hysterically insisting that going along with the national custom is some kind of surrender to religious delusion. I doubt that even one in ten of the congregation that were packing my last night’s carol service to the rafters were remotely interested in any god-bothering - they just thought a few traditional carols, some vaguely respectful mumbling when the parson said the words, and a mince pie and some mulled wine, were a nice way to mark the season of the year. If it helps, you can probably imagine a purely secular light in their eyes as they get on with the frenzied gift-shopping and guzzling. :slight_smile:

I don’t believe Superman, Aslan, Thor*, the Easter Bunny, or Papa Smurf ever existed, but the conventions of English capitalization don’t make exceptions for fictional characters. And Crist DOES exist.

*I reserve the right to change my mind about Thor. Thor’s cool. He bears the whetstone of the giant so that men might not have to, after all. Plus he’s got that hot wife.

Do you refuse to capitalize Harry Potter?

An exceptionally well-reasoned and thoughtful explanation. Thanks, timbicile59.