Sometimes the person mocked fails to respond in the way you hope.
Has there actually been a reaction to the cartoon other than this kid? As far as I can tell he reacted BEFORE it was even aired, by issuing his warning not to show Mohammed.
Well, ya know, when you’re right, you’re right. I was posting in a hurry, about to leave the house, and fudged up the editing on “will” and the spelling on infinitesimal. So I have little choice but to own it.
Still, I know the difference between “breaks” and “brakes” and “heals” and “heels”. Plus I never took anyone seriously when they used the term “rocket surgery” either.
And I know better than you do about what should be done to contain the Muslim threat to Western rights, freedoms and way of life. (And how come you guys go ballistic over every little thing Christian but defend to the death Muslim rights to mistreat women and kill people who write and draw things they don’t like?)
So, all things considered it’s better to be me. 
While I mean no offense to the woman in question, I disagree with her. I don’t recall making the claim you’re trying to refute in the second part; I think that must have been someone else.
For one, I think that’s illogical. So far as I can tell, quite a few people believe that Mohammed was portrayed in the cartoon - reality may well be different from what people believe. Neither does it mean, even if that were so, that criticism of Islam is completely off the table, unless it is your contention that within that cartoon every method of possible criticism was contained. And beyond even that, the inability, if it is so, to criticise Islam without affront doesn’t mean that there are degress of insult, or that you could not make the point without criticising Islam overtly.
Oh, I would imagine lots of white folks were offended, and insulted. But that was as a secondary matter, not as the outright goal. Rosa Parks didn’t sit in front of the bus, start swearing profusely at all in sight and punch those who tried to remove her. Those marchers weren’t all carrying signs with the most insulting phrases they could possible think of on them. There is a difference between incidental insult and deliberate insult; between accepting that insult will be taken, and actively setting out to be as unpleasant as possible; between making a point which happens to insult, and making a point by insulting.
Could you name “you guys”? I’m not sure whether i’m being stealthily included.
Sorry, no list. It would run much too long. But I can say that I didn’t necessarily have you in mind when I made the comment.
Then you’re not necessarily wrong.
Parse it how you like, doesn’t make it true.
Go ask a white housewife back in the 1960’s, and I doubt she’d see it that way. Why can’t everyone be happy with their place? Why can’t people just accept that death is a legitimate consequence of criticism of Islam?
-Joe
Are you saying that Rosa Parks et al were deliberately setting out to offend? That the intent of their protests was to be extremely insulting? Consider me suprised.
Quite possibly not. However, I would imagine that setting out to insult and offend would garner even more reactions of “not seeing it that way”.
Given that I have said several times that I support the notion of standing up in some non-counter-productive way, and that death most certainly is not a legitimate consequence of criticism of Islam, i’d like you to retract that, please. It’s quite a powerful charge to say that I am a-ok with murder, and if you want to make it, I’d like to see your evidence.
Understood.
I still have Muhammad’s portrait as my wallpaper.
ETA: And shit.
Look, I am sick and tired of you implying that this was the work of one isolated “kid” who is misbehaving.
One of the spokespersons of this group is 20 years old and married. I believe that this is Talhah al Amrikee, who is cited in this story.
Another spokesperson for the GROUP, Younes Mohammed, can be seen at this CNN report by Anderson Cooper.
Take 10 minutes and watch the whole thing, will you? Especially the comments by Younes Mohammed between 3:00 and 6:00 on the video. Does that big scray bastard look like a kid to you? Do you think his comments about terrorism are funny?
There are two grown men already identified with this group in the media, and you continue to maintain that it was a kid playing some kind of prank.
In the Fox story, we read: "“It’s not a threat, but it really is a likely outcome,” al Amrikee said, referring to the possibility that Parker and Stone could be murdered for mocking Muhammad. “They’re going to be basically on a list in the back of the minds of a large number of Muslims. It’s just the reality.”
Fox goes on to report that:
The posting on RevolutionMuslim.com also includes audio of a sermon by Anwar al-Awlaki – a radical U.S.-born preacher now believed to be hiding in Yemen – who discusses assassinating individuals who defame the Prophet Muhammad. It also included a link to a 2009 story in the Huffington Post that gave details of Stone and Parker’s mansion in Colorado.
Now maybe these bastards get away with it by dressing their threats up just enough to make them seem like warnings, but there is no way this is an innocent warning from some crazy kid.
I have given you the links. Go see the facts. And if I read you saying that this is a the work of a “kid” once more, I will know you are either stupid or a liar.
Get your facts straight!
Well, I was all in favor of them being considered dangerous extremists but now that Fox has reported it, I need to doublecheck.
Seconded. The only people who feel the need to persecute heretics are those who’s faith is actually threatened by said heretics.
Another Second. I need not draw “M” (PBUH 
) either, nor have I felt the slightest wish to (since I can’t draw for shit). BUT I am willing to fight for my right to do so. That will be when it becomes necessary to actually kill or die to protect someone who did it. Have at your “draw the prophet” protest, even if I see it as childish. I will get involved if (and only if) someone needs to stand between you and the Muslims you’ve insulted to keep them from killing you for it.
Uh, that time has already arrived. Just ask Salmon Rushdie and Matt and Trey and cartoonist Lars Vilk who’s just had to build a safe room in his house to protect himself and his family, and Theo Van Gogh and…oh, wait, you CAN’T, he’s DEAD!
Or did you just mean that you would onlhy step in once Walmarticus him or herself was threatened?
If the latter, I’m afraid you don’t count much as a freedom-fighter.
Uh, there was absolutely no way he could have stopped that from happening. He wasn’t there. He’s saying he will only fight when it actually means risking something, which is the exact opposite of what this protest is doing. It’s purpose is to make more people hate us, and rely on the fact that they can’t do anything about it. My point is that, eventually, they will be able to do something about it.
The only way to actually create peace is to make it where, by the time they get to that point, they don’t want to. And the goal of this is to do the opposite. Eventually Iran will have nukes. And some Islamofascist will get a hold of it, and be perfectly fine with using it to destroy the people that they perceive as being assholes to them.
BTW, I find it hilarious that Mister “We need to be as polite as we were in the 50s” is okay with doing something that is so impolite as to stir violent impulses.
Bumper sticker I’d like to buy:
My nuclear sub can whip your fatwa’s ass.
Sub yes, U.S. Navy destroyer not so much.
Too soon?
I don’t know how you get the point across that Mohammad’s image is not off limits without a mass exhibit of him. This should have been done over the Danish cartoons. The spokesperson representing the group said point blank that terrorism was an express part of Islam. These people need to be exposed for who they are. There is no sane reason that Mohammad’s image can’t be drawn, criticized or otherwise referred to in any form of communicated idea.
Freedom-fighter? Do you really think this stunt, a handful of poorly drawn characatures, puts you on par with Salmon Rushdie?
Grow some fucking balls and actually criticize Islam on May 20th. No, not insult it, but actually criticize it. Which of course would mean learning something about it, and the people that practice it. My guess is a lot of pussies will spend May 21st saying, “I was going to draw Mohammed, until I got high. Was gunna draw him real gud, until I got high. Was going to satirize a really complex subject but didn’t and I know why, cause I got high, cause I got high, cause I got high.”
Oh, and you spelled “only” wrong.