As I said before, this is purest unadulterated bullshit. We have conservative posters who have been savaged for their unpopular views in the Pit (and who have more warnings than BPC) who continue to post freely on the rest of the board. Anyone conducting a “lynch mob” campaign elsewhere on the board is likely to be warned for harassment or stalking, and it they persist will be banned a lot quicker than their target.
AFAIK, Satan was banned in part for stalking and leading lynch mob campaigns. Actually he was banned for being a jerk, but the preceding was an aspect of that.
OTOH, the mods have great tolerance for whining.
As for lynch mobs, they have circled around around Diogenes the Cynic, Liberal (aka Libertarian), The Ryan and Shodan. The 2 named never-banned conservatives have benefited from the mods’ tendency to bend over backwards for that ideology. I agree with this: conservatives deserve special protection because they suffer from the disadvantage of having weaker arguments. It’s only fair.
At any rate, on most boards, repeatedly getting in the mods face gets you rejected.
Participation ribbons aren’t enough?
And you kidding me? Are you seriously suggesting that conservatives are handled with extra care on this MB? And are you seriously offering those anecdotes as your argument? And are you seriously suggesting that DtC didn’t irritate posters across the political spectrum? And, are you seriously suggesting that Shodan clearly and obviously violates the rules the way DtC did? And… I could go on, but I won’t.
I will only add that arguably the most contentious poster to resist banning here is so far to the left that he’s almost circled back 'round to the right. Whole threads have been devoted to why he hasn’t been banned (although, just to be clear, I have not personally called for his banning). You get 3 guesses to whom I refer, and the first 2 don’t count.
At any rate, I suppose it’s unavoidable that mods are going to be biased against certain poster or certain ideologies, but they seem to do as good job of keeping those biases in check. If you feel persecuted, as a conservative, here you’re probably suffering from confirmation bias if you think the mods are out to get your ilk.
Shodan has received TLC given that he’s been pretty consistently in the mods face. Which is to say getting in the mods face won’t get you banned.
Anecdotes? The sample of posters who have been encircled by pitchforks isn’t that large. Sorry John what I presented was data. If you want to add Der Trihs to the sample, no prob.
The original contention by Debaser was that badly acting conservatives would get promptly banned because they would get lots of posts reported. That contention was falsified. Recall the DtC ban announcement: basically all the complaints were for things that he did which were entirely within the rules. Insofar as the mob was concerned, this was a content problem or at best a matter of, “Presenting things in the worst possible way”, which is not a bannable offense.
I dunno, because DtC was banned for piquene mis-steps. Shodan has considerably more discipline: he thinks strategically. Badly sourced and dishonestly presented hit and run posts and tu quoque trollish hijacks are accepted here.*
Ya, that was my point.
- For non-trollish tu quoque, see Bricker. He gets the short end by the mob here, IMHO.
I’ve seen this abbreviation a few times in this thread. Just to confirm, BBC is Budget Player Cadet, correct? So why isn’t this BPC?
Stop persecuting Debaser.
You’re right. I apparently should be debasing Persecuter instead.
I don’t mean to criticize or speak out of turn, but this thread is dumb and boring now and you’re all stupid.
I can’t claim to have read all of Shodan’s posts, but that’s an absurdly subjective statement, and I haven’t seen any evidence of it.
No, those are anecdotes. Data would have to be comprehensive in order to prove such a broad generalization as you made.
You don’t falsify 2+2=5 by claiming the answer is actually 6.
Your recollection is incorrect. Of the 8 examples given in the “DtC is banned” thread in ATMB, 3 are for blatant rules violations (calling someone a dipshit outside the pit, claiming another poster is “lying through his teeth” in GD). The other examples might (and I emphasize might) be debatable as to whether they are rules violations, but it’s absurd to say that something like continuing a thread hijack after a mod has instructed posters not to do so to be “entirely within the rules”.
People are comparing apples and oranges. Dio was banned for repeatedly explicitly insulting posters outside of the pit.
Neither Shodan not Der Trihs has ever done that, or at least not to the extent that Arik did.
He regularly whines about an anti-conservative conspiracy in ATMB and gets in tomndeb’s face.
When N=~8 (say), n=4 is a sample. Though now we’re up to 5.
I meant the discussion thread. People weren’t complaining about extra-Pit insults. They complained about Dio expressing things, “In the worst possible way”. If anything, Dio was the victim of excessive reporting of picayune negative remarks outside of the pit.
Ibn Warraq: I agree with your claim.
Can I still mention ElvisL1ves’ comment on “the 9/11 perps were safely based in Montreal” at six-month intervals in threads where he scorns someone else’s crazy beliefs?
I wouldn’t want to appear stalkish, after all.
No. But we were vaguely warned we might be if we are hitting him and he doesn’t hit back.
You brought it up. What’s your point?
I’m not arguing that. I haven’t done that. Has anyone?
Why do you bring this up? Has anyone done this? Do you show up in every pit thread to remind people of this? What’s special in this case?
Plus you are now only defending half of your statement to which I objected.
Italics mine. What’s that first bit mean? I read it simply to mean that even in this thread if he stops posting we might get modded for attacking him. If you didn’t mean that, it’s fine. You can retract. But the way you wrote that it’s certainly implies that you might get modded for pitting him here if he doesn’t fight back.
If that’s not what you meant, why include it? If you were just making a statement that people shouldn’t stalk him in other threads why include the italicized part of your statement?
You’re backpedaling.
Yeah. That’s odd. Autocorrect, maybe? I wasn’t doing it on purpose.
:smack:
You’d have to clarify what you mean by getting in his face, but generally that is one of the purposes of that forum-- to complain about moderation.
But the claim was that the mods bend over backwards for conservatives. There are more than 8 conservatives on this MB. I’m not suggesting you substantiate your claim-- I’m suggesting it is, for all practical purposes, not something one can substantiate.
OK, but there is no way I’m going to pick thru that thread, classify the various posts, and then report the statistics. If you’d like to do that, be my guest. I had to take a shower after the 15 minutes I spent reviewing the thread announcing his banning.
Dio was not a victim of anything other than his disregard for the rules of this MB. If there was a lynch mod after him it had nothing to do with his politics, and everything with his inability to stop hijacking threads.
**Shodan **implicitly insults everyone, in every post, with his sig line.
Still trying that one, eh?
Regards,
Shodan
Geez, project much? I find it hard to see his silly little affectation as insulting to anyone, except possibly himself and even then only in the sense of making him look like the kind of person who compulsively uses silly little affectations.