At least you weren’t wrong for very long.
I am really surprised at the Scum action this past Night. Killing dotchan was a mistake, it seems to me, versus simply making the argument that hey, Blaster Master was a serial killer and maybe we shouldn’t clear anyone on his word alone.
I’m with you. I am a bit baffled by the scums action the last couple of Nights actually.
Uh… yeah! me too!
I have several issues to sort out.
One is the back-up Doc claim which needs more scrutiny. Back-up Doc implies Doc which implies someone was able to protect NAF, DiggitCamara and Cookies – but didn’t. WTH?
Second is the no kill night on Night Six. This of course implies the existence of a Doc. I don’t know. Something doesn’t add up.
I kind of think that scum decided to no kill so that someone could claim Doc since they’ve concluded that there is no doc? Maybe? Sort of? Possibly?
I know, ridiculous. But I can’t explain how there must be NO Doc on nights 1-5 and suddenly a Doc for Night 6, and conveniently a backup-Doc roleclaim on Day 7.
Oh, just open up the claimed back-up Doc and let me see the insides. That will sort things out, maybe, possibly…
See, right now is where I wish you knew what I know Sach.
Frankly, a game with 2 cops, a doctor and a backup sounds ridiculously in favour of Town to me. My guess is that there’s a roleblocker out there.
New theory:
Doc has a restriction similar to what the backup-doc has posted. The Doc can only protect someone who voted for him. It’s possible that this explains why NAF, DiggitCamara, and Cookies were left unprotected since maybe they never voted for the Doc.
The claimed backup-doc could also be the actual Doc.
Or this.
Of course, I know the answer as to whether his claim is truthful or not, so I won’t just say what it is but, as is probably clear from your lack of a conclusion, or lack thereof, some of your assumptions are wrong.
Now, I don’t know exactly what the scum did that resulted in a no-kill, since I didn’t bother to ask, but no-killing to attempt to imply a Doctor just doesn’t make sense. Beside the fact that the scum already tried a Doctor-esque role and failed, why would they throw more resources (a Night kill and a body to claim) at it to try to get it to work again? I haven’t seen a situation yet where I think a no-kill is a good move strategically, and I certainly wouldn’t think this is one of them
Either way, lynching someone because of their claim just seems silly. Besides that I already knew MHaye was scum, his role PM was convincing enough, but it didn’t fit the circumstances very well. Would the scum then, with no evidence for a Doctor, following a failed Doctor claim, then have someone come out and claim backup doctor with, what I would say, is probably a slightly less convincing PM and absolutely no backup evidence?
IOW, even though there’s no evidence to backup his claim as a backup doc, there’s also no compelling reason to believe the scum would throw out a claim like that. I think it’s a wash.
Lynch him if you think he’s scum, but don’t lynch him because you think his claim is fishy; maybe use it as a tie-breaker, but not as evidence for his lynch, at least without being linked to other things.
On Preview: Yeah NAF, too bad he doesn’t know; but we can taunt with our perfect knowledge. I just hope I didn’t give anything away.
I almost mentioned something about his basic assumptions but figured that would be too helpfull. But sach and Rysto both I think have made one or two assumptions (different assumptions) that are incorrect.
Yay, my first non-lynch related death!
I was this close to unvoting both macey (because I thought “there’s no way even a newbie scum could be THAT stupid, she’d have her scumbuddies screaming at her to shut up and back off from her scummy position posthaste”) AND Blaster Master (because I believed his claim). I had a feeling I shouldn’t have unvoted MHaye, either, because the claim did sound fishy, but I talked myself out of it. :smack:
When Natlaw came out vehemently opposing my mass-claim suggestion, my first reaction was “this guy is either a power role or scum”. Wonder how accurate my scumdar is this time…
At least someone bought my claim. Too bad you didn’t, cause the town probably would have had this game in the books by now.
Is it kosher for dotchan to be posting here as well as the actual game thread?
Natlaw:
Umm…rather than worry about block/no-block, why not just have a no-lynch in this case? Rather than waste an pro-town night-action opportunity, forgo a lynch if the night-action doesn’t work as expected.
I’m not spoiled, so I don’t see why not.
It’s unfair to the Scum if dead Townies and spectators can give advice to the Town, filtered through a semi-alive (and confirmed Town) player.
Sorry dotchan, but from the opening post.
As you are not yet dead, this means you too.
I noticed that the new off board game has the same end time as this game so I looked to see how much overlap there is.
To my surprise I noticed that Nanook of the North Shore is in both games. Nanook has been super-lurker in this game! If he is so busy that he can’t put in a decent amount of play into this game, I’m confused as to why he signed up for another game on the off-board.
Nanook should be lynched. Though I really hope he isn’t hiding scum, because that is just sucky. But I can’t piece together how he could post so little here (under the guise of being busy) and sign up for another game. Meta-game is sorta bad, but really, he should be killed for his lack of participation anyway.
Honestly? Who kills DOTCHAN? I’m VERY disappointed in the Scum’s Night actions…
If you can’t convince the Town to lynch her, you’re not doing a very good job as scum at ALL…
On an unrelated note, Pede’s game offsite needs a sub. If anyone is interested.