That’s fine. I just thought that since you hadn’t really participated much toDay that you might be of the opinion that it was better to end it early.
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Actually, other than reading through the list a few times, I haven’t given much thought at all to what the powers do. It isn’t going to help me much anyway.
The difference I see here is that he’s speculating about specific spells and putting those guesses up for discussion. In your post, you are drawing conclusions and asking us to discuss the conclusion without posting anything about the roles you are speculating about. I don’t know if I share your conclusions about the powers because you skipped the whole part where we discuss them. I personally think such discussion is moot at this point, since we don’t even know who has the book and so we aren’t going to get any feedback after attempting the spells.
Seriously, folks. I don’t see that much conversation coming. Just “finalize” your vote for Tel and end the Day.
If **Guiri’s **count above is accurate the 24hr clock is already ticking.
Mahaloth, can you do me a favor and please tell me which games you’ve played and which games you’ve been Scum?
I’ve found Random Mafia here. That might be the only one we were both in where you were Scum.
You really do need a wiki page 
I think quite a bit of conversating has taken place toDay, more than I expected to at least. As the countdown started some time ago, I’d rather see the actual discussion continue and not turn the rest of the Day into squawking about the “normal voters” being somehow less enthusiastic about the lynch than the “final voters”.
Here’s a late-in-the-game case I made against a Scum Mahaloth in Random Mafia. Note the part I bolded and underlined. Where you built a weak case against a Scum buddy. Which you later used to point out your Towniness.
And now, here in this game, you’ve made a case against someone who appears to be Scum. A case that was in no danger of succeeding. A case where you cannot back up the fact you used (that Telcontar acted like he did before as Scum)
See, your case is a good one, only it didn’t point to Telcontar, it points to you!
I’m curious if the final voters are in fact all valid voters.
Some may have forgotten to unvote previously.
This is the 11th vote on Telcontar. The Day will end with his lynching at 1:21PM tomorrow (Thursday) afternoon.
I’ll get to everything else tomorrow morning - really sorry for my inattention, but there was a real-life issue and it made it difficult to keep up.
Hope all is well or at least on that trajectory for you, Story.
I know my vote yesterDay ended up on the dead guy.
Uh, off the top of my head. I think this is all.
I’ve been in:
Ped’s Werewolf game: I was vanilla Town
Ped’s Crimson Glyph game: I was scum
Chronos Scum Pond game: I was Town.
Inbloroius Gasterds: Who cares? I was SK, same as everyone else.
Malazan: Uh, I was neither town nor scum. I aligned with Peeker.
Colorless: Town
Random Mafia: Scum
I do need one. I should make it, I guess.
So the last few pages of this Day…they didn’t happen? Did you go back and look at the player interactions I suggested investigating? Because if conversation isn’t happening enough for your liking it’s your job to try and fix that.
unvote: Telcontar
Vote: Mahaloth
since Telcontar is going to swing anyway.
As to Mahaloth, the vote is for creating a weak case early on Telcontar and completely failing to provide any support for it whatsoever. A tactic I’ve called him on in a previous game.
In Random Mafia, he was Scum, and built a weak early case on a fellow Scum and promoted it to little effect. He then used it as evidence of his Towniness and survived to endgame and won.
Also, I noticed in Random that he bemoaned the lack of real conversation and yet provided none of his own. It sounds eerily similar to this game where he’s saying not much discussion is going on and we should just end the Day.
I realize my case is based purely on playstyle and other games, but I think it’s as strong as a case like that can be, and certainly makes Mahaloth the most suspicious in my mind.
I like the case ed, and would have voted for him myself if I hadn’t final voted already. I am also not a fan of Mrs right now for not actually playing in the game toDay. At least she cops to not playing.
I’m sorry
Hey, he chose to be aligned with peeker.
Votes for Telcontar on Day One.:
**Telcontar **posts his case on **NAF **(basically, for pushing Oy! over non-vanilla-ness). Post 996. At this point, Oredigger (not Scum) has 11 votes. His nrearest rival is Chip with 3. Hypothetically, the Scum motivation for voting Telcontar is that it would be safe vote which would create some “distance” between the voter and votee, plus avoiding being on a town bandwagon.
**Normal **votes **Telcontar **in post 1010. Reasons: The case against **NAF **is a reflex “fishing is scummy” one which doesn’t account for context - something NP considers a scum tell. Plus some “maybe he is, maybe he isn’t” over **Chip **and over-confidence in dismissing peeker’s case against McGinty.
**brewha **votes in post 1015 "Frankly, I think Telcontar’s pursuit of NAF is the scummiest thing I’ve read yet."No more analysis than that.
**Mahaloth **votes in 1017. He thinks this is a preprepared case that Tel has worked on with other Scum.
Chip votes Telcontar in post 1043
I vote Telcontar in post 1048. “I agree that his case against NAF looks very opportunistic - trying to make him a scapegoat.” That’s all the analysis I give.
Out of these four unknown alignment votes, I would tend to discount Normal Phase because it was a detailed case and the first vote, which means that it’s more likely to be genuine. Obviously I know I’m town, but you don’t, so I appreciate that everything I say can be applied to me too. Everyone who follows Normal Phase is pretty laconic about their reasons. Maha is the only who offers a new perspective - a somewhat meta-gamey reason that this is behaviour seen in other games. I actually disagree with this - my feeling was that the case against NAF was pretty opportunistic, because it hinged on his outing of Oy! - a process that only started 3.5 hours before Telcontar made his vote post. So I don’t see that Scum would have had time to prepare a case.
What happens the next day?
Post 1201: **brewha **unvotes Telcontar to vote NAF following the disappearance of the Book.
Post 1299: I unvote Telcontar to vote Suburban Plankton for asking too many questions about Chip/the Martyr.
Post 1397: **Mahaloth **unvotes Telcontar to vote peeker (correcting a failed unvote from earlier).
Post 1432: **Normal **unvotes Telcontar to vote lilflower.
Well, to our collective discredit, we all take our eye off Telcontar. Maha to join the bandwagon on peek (but not as late as the vote record suggests), the rest of us to focus on someone new. It has to be said that unvoting Telcontar fits exactly with the hypothesis that Scum would join a going-nowhere case, because obviously they’d want to take the pressure off post-lynch. In that case, Normal’s late unvote would be a point in her favour except a) by that time peek was so far in the lead there was no pressure on Telcontar again, b) the earlier unvotes had also removed that pressure and c) I haven’t checked how active she was before then.
None of this is conclusive but I think it suggests some people to watch (and I’d done the work, so I’m damned if I’m going to delete it!)
So to sum it up:
Random Mafia was the one where Ed was your scum-buddy (and the game he’s building his case on) and LoTR (you were the Moderator, right?) was the one you were referring to on Day 1 with your post:
Is that correct?
So what do you think of the case Ed has presented?