Exes gone berserk!

I’m a lawyer with a family law practice, e.g.:

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[li]Client woke to discover his wife stabbing him in the head in hopes of killing him.[/li]
[li]Another client came home to find his wife in an armed standoff with the Tactical Response Unit because she wanted to shoot him.[/li]
[li]Another client found his sauna too warm because his wife had set in on fire and barricaded the door on the outside in hopes of killing him.[/li]
[li]Another client went through a messy divorce with a bat-shit-crazy violent wife who regularly assaulted him, and then he went on to date an equally bat-shit-crazy violent woman who had been previously married to yet another client who is presently in a messy divorce with his second bat-shit-crazy violent wife.[/li][/ul]
And on and on and on. There are a lot of people out there (of both sexes) who are crazy, mean and violent.

And folks wonder why I’m single. :smiley:

My aunt worked briefly at a family law clinic and said that experience made her a great advocate for never getting married.

Wow, I was all happy and content in my relationship and ready to get married, despite it being somewhat new. But now? Not so much…

Pressuring one’s partner into getting serious and committed very quickly is actually one of the classic warning signs of an abuser.

Not my business, so don’t respond if you don’t want to, but was he in charge of the birth control? Subverting it to cause pregnancy (and thus quick commitment) is another abuser-y tactic.

tdn, I think it’s pretty easy to get involved in a bad relationship… all it really takes is vulnerability and a hefty dose of denial. What I’ve never really understood is why people stay in them for so long.

I try to be compassionate and understanding of people for their choices, but I will never understand why some people don’t have that little mechanism in their heads that says, ‘‘Oh! This guy is a jackass! He’s not at all the person I thought he was! Time to ditch this loser!’’ I feel pretty strongly about this because I’ve been personally affected by my mother’s choice in narcissistic abusive partners. It’s hard to be understanding when you are the one most profoundly affected by someone else’s lack of judgment. My mother still has this problem, though her denial no longer affects me personally, I still have to listen to the drama she subjects herself to on a regular basis because she has to be with a man regardless of whether he is worthwhile or not. She has been divorced four times now and is currently dating an addict who barely gives a shit about her.

My ‘‘crazy ex’’ stories are mild by comparison, though if I had stayed with these dudes longer than a few months I’m sure I’d have more interesting tales to tell. I’ll stick with the funny crazy kind of crazy.

One guy I dated is batshit insane, and it was in fact that insanity that attracted me to him, since it made me feel normal by comparison. He was Bipolar and had Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder and straight-up OCD. His hands were always cracked and red and occasionally bled from all the washing. He was an absolute genius, scored 1600 on his SATs, but was emotionally crippled, always trying to reason his way around things that require feeling.

He was really loony, in a hysterical, ‘‘WTF?’’ kind of way. He was always on about his latest venture. When I first met him he was a staunch libertarian determined to become mayor of Detroit and revamp the entire town. His visions, and his convictions, were constantly changing, and he was militant about them. At one point he became a devout, very vocal Catholic and alienated all of my friends by calling them ‘‘infidels.’’ He regularly used experimental drugs. Then he decided he was going to join the Navy. I remember coming over to his dorm one evening and he presented me with a grid of Detroit’s utility system, which he had reproduced himself on a giant posterboard. A very intelligent, fascinating mind to connect with, but unfortunately he completely lacked basic social skills. He could be a complete asshole without really meaning to be. At one point I became so pissed off at him that I cut him out of my life completely.

It was a real ‘‘on-again, off-again’’ thing. He broke up with me once because he ‘‘couldn’t bring [him]self to be physically attracted to me’’ and then begged me to give him a second chance, and then broke up with me again, this time because he was worried about dating someone else with a mental illness (I was offended at the time, but looking back, it probably would have been disaster.) The last time I talked to him he was dating another girl, who he said he considered his ‘‘second chance’’ with me because he had screwed things up with me. So even as weird as he was, I think we have a special place in one another’s hearts. There was some kind of meaningful connection even though it was pretty much doomed from the beginning.

I enjoy chatting with him from time to time (he’s now a graduate student in urban planning and actually seems a lot more stable than he used to be. He’s also a liberal atheist now, and has been for a while. Who knows for how long?)

The thing is, he revealed something to me later that makes it impossible for me to take him seriously. He has a really bizarre sexual fetish that I don’t find attractive in the least. In fact, to me, it’s downright freaky and a major turnoff. The first thing I thought when he told me his secret was ‘‘thank god I dodged that bullet.’’ It’s not anything immoral, just incredibly unsexy.

What’s also sort of funny is that the week I first met my husband, at freshman orientation of college, I was only dimly aware of his existence since I was so interested in this other guy. I was so caught up in the crazy-boy drama that I barely noticed my husband for like, a year. If someone had come up to me and told me that I would marry Sr. Olives, I’d have been like, ‘‘What? Who? The dorky X-Men guy?’’ I try to take that as a lesson about first impressions, and assumptions, and just how weird and unexpected life is in general.

Oh come on, there’s no way you can leave us hanging like that. This is practically the only story that doesn’t make me want to shoot myself; details are needed to keep the thread from getting too depressing.

Well, I didn’t want to say it, but…

He likes to poop in diapers. And have women change him. For sexual gratification or something.

And the last time I talked to him he was gushing about how fulfilling his sex life was because his new girlfriend would indulge him in this. I’m happy for him, I really am, just… there aren’t enough disgusted smileys in the world for this. I am just so glad we never had to have that conversation when we were dating. It would have ended… badly.

lezlers, good relationships happen just as often as bad ones. They just don’t often make for riveting stories. Keep that in mind!

(Although I personally would caution against marrying too quickly. Some people get lucky, but IME the best test of any relationship is time.)

I’m sure a number of us have seen the story doing the rounds in the last few days of the women who crashed her car because she was shaving her pubic hair while driving. She was doing this because she was on her way to a date with her boyfriend. Stupid, obviously, but we’ve all juggled doing too many things at once due to time pressure, I guess.

But what really has me scratching my head is fact that the person holding the wheel while she does this is her ex-husband. I can understand staying friends with an ex. I can kind of understand helping them out by giving them a lift or something. I can, at a real stretch, imagine helping them with travel arrangements for seeing their new boyfriend. But being willing to assist them to shave their crotch in preparation for (presumably) their hot monkey sex with the new love interest… People are weird.

…but if he’s in jail…who has her? A foster home? I wish they would have gave her to you.

I did not hear about this… wow… that’s funny!

Now I wish I’d been left hanging. Oh spoiler tags, why can I not resist your beguiling powers?

Nope. I was and like I’ve said…I was 20 and stupid. I was very bad about taking my pills and had also been on an antibiotic for a sinus infection when I got pregnant.

This didn’t happen to me, nor my roommate, but affected soooo many:

My roommate’s brother, Philibuster*, is a mechanic, so anytime we have car trouble, we go to him. Philibuster doesn’t have access to a garage at the moment, so he keeps the cars he works on in his friend’s garage, who we’ll call Abercrombie. My roommate had given his car to Philibuster a couple weeks ago to replace the transmission.

Abercrombie’s girlfriend had just broken up with him, moved out, and took their baby, and was basically treating him badly. Abercrombie was still doing everything she wanted–including paying for her new apartment–so he could be in any good graces when custody hearings started.

Last week, he finally put his foot down and told her he wasn’t paying for her apartment anymore, even calling the complex, and telling them she was responsible for the rent now. In retaliation, it is believed(pending the investigation) she went to Abercrombie’s house, and burned down his garage. With my roommate’s car in it. With the new transmission roommate had paid for, Philibuster had just bought but had not been able to put in yet.

On Saturday, roommate showed me the pictures of the melted slab that used to be his car.

This is the first thing I thought of when you mentioned it. I think I read too much Dan Savage.
None of mine are too bad, I just stayed in almost all of the relationships for far too long, and the girls/women tended to be somewhat controlling, usually to compensate for their own insecurities. The worst episode was the one who threatened to kill herself if I broke up with her.

But I was younger then. Hopefully I’m beyond all that now, and will be able to recognize the signs if any of that comes up again. Hopefully.

Anyone here have a friend or family member vouch for your ex’s sanity/compassion/personality? I knew of a guy named Jake (not his real name) on a different swim team (towns about 30 minutes apart) who I thought was cute. Didn’t matter; I didn’t know if he was smart or not, which mattered to me (even then) in high school. I vaguely tell my mom of Jake. In a cruel twist of fate, my mom sees a patient the next week, who turns out to be Jake’s aunt. She raves about how smart and talented he is, how he’s so “mature”…:rolleyes: Stupid me, I filed it away as a “maybe”. And, a month later, when I realized I didn’t have a date for the winter formal, I asked him. He couldn’t have been more thrilled. We chat on AIM in the weeks leading up to it, flirting and such. I’m excited; he’s really hot, I’m gonna have a great looking date. And if I get bored with him, he can blend in with our semi-mutual friends at my after party.

When we arrive at the dance (in his…convertible :smack:), we start walking towards the venue. We’re a quarter of the way there…when his parents walk up to us. They approach us and say they went to a restaurant nearby. Oh cool, I get to meet them, oh how fate works out! :rolleyes: It wasn’t till weeks later that I realize 1) the restaurant is 6 blocks away, with its own parking lot and that 2) they were probably just as psycho and creepy as him, and were also trying to see what I looked like. :smack:

Jake tries to make out with me on the dance floor MULTIPLE TIMES, tries to constantly be physically affectionate, tells me how crazy he is about me. I’m too busy having fun with my friends to be truly offended by it. Later, at my house at the after party, I push aside his attempts at affection, since my best friend locked herself in a bathroom with her ex, so I’m trying to distract her boyfriend before he realizes where she is (and, obviously, with who).

We date for the next couple of months, during which he 1) Tells me he loves me in a poem he wrote and recited to me on my front porch. It took every fiber of my being not to laugh at him on the spot. He later told me while we were making out in his car how excited he was for us to have sex! Uhh, buddy, we’re just kissing right now, and I pretty much told you outright that wasn’t in the cards for us. Especially now! One night when I didn’t take his calls, he called me 20 times in 2 hours when he realized I was hanging out with friends instead of with him. Later that night, he called my landline at 2am when I hadn’t called him back on my cell phone after the 20 calls that night.

I’ll never forget the look on my poor mother’s face when she woke me to give me the cordless phone…fear mixed with apprehension topped off with sadness. I knew then I had to end it, but had no idea how. I was sixteen, my first boyfriend and I kissed one time and were still good friends.

Things cool off, I’m trying to think of how to break it off with him…when he crashes his car and is rushed to the hospital. His stomach is pumped for taking pills (a mixture of god knows what) and alcohol. He did it because…he thought I was going to break up with him! Talk about a mind numbing experience for 16 year old me. I was incredibly naive to begin with, the whole thing really matured (or aged me, depending on how you look at it.) The guilt was just incredible.

After he recovers, I start slowly encouraging the idea that we should “be friends” for awhile. I broke up with him over AIM - for the deliberate reason that I thought he would freak out if in person or on the phone, and become self destructive. I claimed that I was crying too hard to talk, that it was very painful for me, but that I thought time apart would make him find himself and later we would be stronger together. Part of me feels bad for lying through my teeth, especially since I’m not the kind of person who would ever (or every has since) broken up with someone using technology.

And all because of a recommendation from my mom!

On the bright side, we broke up in March-ish. Next October, the first time I wear my winter coat of the new season, I find his poem in my pocket while in the locker room, we all hysterically at the absurdity of the whole thing.

Hah I called it too. Also Savage Love is great.

Because usually, like in this case, it is some funny f’in’ stuff. :slight_smile:

Indeed. :slight_smile: But really it wasn’t the spoiler that qualifies him as an “EX gone berserk” in my opinion, but this:

Who does that? Just call up an old GF (or however the conversation started) and let them know how nice it is that your new GF will do those bizarre things. (I try not to be judgmental, but that is really just bizarre!) To really have any conversation about your current sex life with an EX is very weird to me.

What I want to know is what is the bizarre sex thing he wanted her to do? Am I the only curious one?

LinsayBluth, That is how I met my ex. Never take advice on a guy from a family member. My ex’s aunt was my landlady and kept telling me he was so handsome and a diamond in the rough. He was rough all right but as they say, You can’t polish a turd! :wink:

Pssst… click the spoiler box in olive’s post.