It’s been pointed out several times by multiple other posters. She said other posters are just mad because she’s attacking their favorite porn. Her last post was BS from start to finish. She’s just flinging shit at this point, and your doe-eyed “what did she say?” routine is absurd.
Truth. I haven’t seen such powerful projection since the last time I went to the movies. **Troppus: ** Go back and reread the whole thread and see if you notice where you repeatedly ascribe violations of your own personal gripes to people seemingly at random, with little to no relation to what they said.
Behold.
It surely does seem like DocCathode’s main beef with Troppus’s posts in this thread is that
- he is upset with her libelous conflation of facials and tittyfucking with “rough” sex, eg. slapping and choking. The way that he is posting leads me to believe that he enjoys the former but not the latter, though I suppose it is possible that I am wrong.
and
- he disagrees that facials and tittyfucking are degrading. This rather neglects that “degrading” is a subjective judgement made from the perspective of the viewer.
Troppus’s stance is that videos which depict loads being dumped with no real attention paid to the woman’s physical pleasure are prima facie degrading because of the drastic imbalance between the enjoyment experienced by the parties involved. Personally, I would characterize such acts as more tiresome than degrading, but this is simply a difference of opinion. Unfortunately for male enthusiasts of facials and tittyfucking, she is certainly far from the only woman who holds this opinion.
Rather than being concerned specifically about mischaracterization of facials and tittyfucking, Princhester seems upset that Troppus has neglected to mention the wide variety of pornography that is available on the open market. To speak only of freely available material, he feels, is disingenuous and disrespectful to the many fine small independent studios who produce tasteful, artfully-composed erotica, possibly even on commission.
The thing of it is, though, that I (and I presume Troppus, as well, but she can chime in to correct me on that) don’t give a shit about those studios because, like the vast majority of modern porn consumers, I’m not interested in paying for beat-off pix. And even if I were, a search through the available options is likely to turn up something that kills my wet-on long, long before I find anything that appeals to me.
I couldn’t possibly care less.
And to illustrate the level of projection in the most simple and straightforward manner possible…
The OP is about the motivations of people who pose nude and put themselves out there freely and openly on the 'net, and whether exhibitionism is a sufficient motive. It has fuck all to do with what you just said it did.
How can you pretend not to care?? It is clear as crystal that you care just as much as the rest of us posting to this thread. You are making posts concerning Troppus’ posts, just like I am, and Doc and LR. What is the point of this nonchalant shoulder shrugging?
I understand Troppus’ larger point. In the process of making her larger point, she said some incorrect things and has been getting called on those things since the beginning of the thread. She admits that maybe she hasn’t been posting so great in this thread.
Troppus may not give a shit about the studios that DO make porn that isn’t dedicated to rough tittyfucking, but in this thread she made the statement that implied that such a market doesn’t exist…
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Someone somewhere could make a mint providing alternative pornography that lies somewhere between romance novels and bukkake. It’s ugly out there for women right now.
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MichaelEmouse called her on this, and she refused to clarify. She has made several other posts that were incorrect, it was pointed out to her, and she admits that her posts haven’t been awesome here.
As an aside, maybe I’m just a porn pro, but there is absolutely no stripe of porn that I have ever thought of that I couldn’t find, for free, on line. Romantic, soft, sweet, nipple kissing, clit coddling porn is certainly out there in abundance. Free.
In the context of complete dramatic stories?
Any way, getting away from the hijack and back to the OP…
Anyone interested in the purely academic aspects of the phenomenon brought up in the OP would do well to search for a certain nina1987’s posts on reddit. There’s even a (non-nude, but probably NSFW-ish) meme picture about her and how, when her brother became aware of her numerous self-shot nudes on reddit, she started a thread there (paraphrasing) “OMG my brother found out!” with a new set of attached nudes.
Yes.
Really. And not stolen?
I assure you, there are plenty of pornographic subgenres of which very little free content is to be found streaming.
You mean lesbian porn. J/K. (not really)
I tend to forget that conversational tone and style often gets picked to death here even in this forum. Looks like I forced the topic way off course but since we’ve got at least two topics rolling anyway I’d like a chance to restate, but I’m not retracting.
In my experience younger guys seem to require and expect more than Playboy style arsty nudes to be titillated. In fact, widely available porn is pretty dehumanizing and degrading to women, and even Nzinga’s self confessed porn-fu would require a lot of digging and sifting to find videos and pics that give a woman’s mutual pleasure any consideration. Sure, it’s out there, but check the available keywords on brazzerz, porno tube or you porn (all three intentionally misspelled) and you’ll see that the majority revolves around the man’s orgasm and humiliation, revenge, and gagging are heavily featured and promoted. I don’t have stats, but it looks like hardcore and rough sex has become the norm rather than a niche, and this is maybe due to desensitization thanks to overexposure to nudes and cell phone amateur video.
Aside from that, regarding the facial and tf hijack…seriously? Can’t believe the defensiveness. It really seems as though a few guys are clinging to the belief that these acts do as much for women as they do men. Have you forgotten the recent bj thread? Some women are physically unable and unwilling to do these acts; you can’t seriously believe you’re doing women favors by tee effing them or hosing down their faces. The women in videos who are begging for it are probably paid actresses or emotionally invested in the satisfaction of their partners. Mainstream porn overindulges men, and in the process a lot, if not most, degrades women. When depicted with an equal amount of attention to the woman’s satisfaction, nothing degrading about those acts if b out h parties are willing. But what is widely available is a torrent of clips dedicated to male-centered objectification of women whose bodies are used for masturbation, and who are masturbated on and masturbated at.
[QUOTE=Peremensoe]
Really. And not stolen?
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You sound skeptical. Haha, at the very idea of it being my style to make up stories for internet discussions.
I don’t know if it is stolen or not, so if you have ethical reasons for not wanting to go to websites that may be pirating videos or whatever, I can’t help you.
My porn MO goes like this:
Have PC.
Have malwarebytes and microsoft essentials
Have Chrome
Have incog browser up
Have privacy
Have a ball.
I can literally google precisely the kind of porn I’m in the mood for. There are certain websites that have never steered me wrong, and they have huge catalog that I can select what kind of porn I am in the mood for.
I have never had a virus (of any consequence) or a letter from the FBI.
So, again, my answer is “yes”.
ETA:
Troppus, for the record, I’m not arguing with your main points. You are correct that most porn is aimed toward men. I have taken issue with some of the posts that you have made regarding your minor points. And I think I may have missed that bj thread you are talking about. I’ll look it up.
3 pages, and you still don’t have the first clue what other people in this thread are actually saying.
Hey, here’s a crazy idea. Why don’t you contribute?
Your posts in this thread have been completely free of any substance. If you have anything to contribute besides this “yeah, what they said” cheerleading routine, now would be a nice time. If you’ve got so much free time, why don’t you go look up some porn for me? My thing right now is those little packets of silica dessicant they put in shoeboxes. Thanks!
No they haven’t. I responded to your request, and you totally ignored it. Pay fucking attention if you want people to answer your questions.
For the umpteenth time, Troppus has made claims in her most recent post that are completely false. The previous posters very clearly stated that the sexual acts she speaks of do not offer as much gratification to women, but that they are no different than many other sexual acts in that regard. Oral sex, for instance.
Seriously, she’s missed the point over and over again, and continually attributed phantom points to people who haven’t made them. Multiple people have drawn attention to this, in detail, numerous times. Pointing out that she’s still doing so is perfectly reasonable, even without specifics. If she hasn’t read all the explanations of her terrible reasoning skills, perhaps someone can get her attention a different way. It appears to have worked, your whining aside.
Who said that, besides you? Blinding, airway obstructing, gagging facials are not equal to oral sex.
Nobody said they were. Some people above have pointed out to you, repeatedly, that they aren’t always done in a violent manner.
You’ve been basically lying about other people’s position without a single cite that backs up anything you say. It’s funny that you’re now asking me for one.
Point out where I said those acts were always done in a violent manner.
You aren’t making sense now. Point out where anyone said that a blinding, airway obstructing facial was equal to oral sex.
Seriously, this is absurd. We were talking about two specific sex acts, and how they could be gratifying for the woman in certain ways. Out of the blue, you ask how gagging, airway obstructing facials are equal to oral sex. Nobody said they were.