The ratings will be through the fucking roof for this. What we’ve taught them to do is more of the same.
I, too, am surprised. IANAL, but I was under the impression that the “public safety exception” meant that if, prior to the Miranda warning, a subject answers a question asked in the interest of public safety (“Can you tell us where other bombs might be located?”), the answer is legally admissible.
But many in the current discussion seem to be assuming it means that the suspect has lost his rights to counsel and silence.
And the USA did the same against McVeigh, Rudolph, Kaczynski, et al.
Those clamoring for a military commission and Gitmo for these guys are just opportunistically going “let’s find something over which to slam Obama about this”.
Not that worried here. If the guy ever watched television, he already knows his Miranda rights.
And the New York Post strikes again, riling the Czech Ambassador:
Exactly; it’s standard operating procedure for western liberal democracies.
I think you may be missing my point, someone said this morning, a lawyer no less, that he may not be allowed access to a lawyer even if he asks for one.
But there is the problem, the only way I learned about such things is from this board. I know one isn’t supposed to take law from TV shows and movies, but I can’t count the number of times when someone asks for a lawyer on TV and the cops say, you can ask for one but we’re not giving you one.
Personally I think these are the things that people need to be taught, I don’t know how people are expected to know these things if they are never exposed to them.
I’ve been looking, but so far haven’t found an answer to what happens if he asks for a lawyer before they ask him anything.
Ok, I found one news source that says he will not have a lawyer present when he speaks:
If they are correct I wouldn’t know.
I believe the Russians have something like that. If they do not obtain a confession or evidence in 48 hours, they have to let you go.
But they will beat the hell out of you for that 48 hours.
Jesus.
Maybe they were trying to say that it doesn’t exist and hasn’t existed for over 20 years?
You know that sense of humor that the NY Post editors have… After all “Is the New York Post Edited by a Bigoted Drunk Who Fucks Pigs?”
They don’t give a link. I seriously doubt that NYP had that as a headline. “Appeared on the web site” probably means some idiot posted it in comments.
I wonder if “incompetent racist” is actionable. He may be quite competent at racism. 
Yeah, that wasn’t passing the sniff test for me, so I started looking into it. The best I could find is this:
There’s nothing concrete. My bet, as much as I dislike the NYPost and would love for this to be real, is that, at worst, it was in the comments section. I was reading the comments the other day and there was some bizarre idiocy going on there, with some users thinking the Chechens were fighting the Serbs and somehow the KLA got into the discussion. Just weird stuff. I couldn’t tell if it was actual stupidity or someone with a strange sense of humor pretending to be an idiot.
ETA: Although that page does contain quite a boner from a former CIA agent, who does confuse Chechnya with the Czech Republic. Oh my. Direct link.
Guess I’ll have to wait for the final version of what happened but I’m just amazed that a bleeding fugitive can escape a neighborhood full of police with dogs. I mean, they’re going door to door looking for him you’d think a dog walking around the perimeter would have pickup up the scent. I’m basing this on the idea that the police thought he might be shot and would have called for dogs who were trained to identify that particular smell.
I can’t really see this as home grown terrorism based on the things the terrorists said. If you come to a country and don’t make any friends with your new countrymen then your citizenship is a lie. That lie is carved in stone when you attack your adopted country.
The boat was just outside the locked-down perimeter.
THis is America, darn it, and we have standards.
I say, first read him his Miranda warnings, and then waterboard him.
The world is watching. Let’s do things the right way!
Regards,
Shodan
That kind of makes Magivers point. If you’re walking dogs around the perimeter and someone breaks the perimeter the dogs should’ve picked up the scent.
Yes but he’s drawing a line as he walks. He didn’t parachute in. If the perimeter represents the location he started in then he should have been easy to find. If he was never in the perimeter to begin with that’s a different story. Maybe we’ll find out when the dust settles.
A block outside that perimeter, I heard. It sounds like he might’ve moved at some point during the day and I guess there was just no on in the area at that point. Dumb luck for him- not that it mattered. I’m surprised but pleased he was taken alive. I am not thrilled about the Miranda warning issue, not that I think it’ll make much difference.