I’m a defense guy all the way. Three & outs are entertaining for me, and much more satisfying (and imo helpful) than a sack.
I’d be fine with downplaying points against, sacks and turnovers to make room for yards allowed and 3 & outs.
OK, got the league set up and ready for joining, thread is here.
In the event that the unspeakable happens and we don’t have a football season, who’s up for fantasy lockout? You get 1 point each time one of your players says something dumb on Twitter, 2 if they get arrested (3 on non-drug charges) and 5 points if they kill someone.
Okay I created the keeper league and joined the other three. Keeper league’s password is same as it always was, our perfect master’s first name.
We still have at least 1 slot open for the auction league, drafting Tuesday, Aug 30 at 9:45 eastern. You really have to attend the draft for auction drafts, so only sign up if you can really make it. The level of competition is very high in this league, probably the highest of any league I’ve ever been in, so if you want a challenge, post here or contact me.
We are very likely to have open slots in the big (20 man) league. Also an auction draft, drafting on the next Tuesday, Sep 6, at 9:15pm ET. So I’ll start an interest list and however many people don’t re-up from last year will have their slots given away to the new players.
The big league is a really unusual league that’ll give you something different from everything you’ve done before. With 20 players and a QB/WR/WR/WR/RB/RB/TE/(W/R/T)/K/D roster, pretty much every remotely productive player gets drafted. The talent is spread very thin. Some weeks you may have to start someone’s third down RB or a return specialist/receiver. Makes for an interesting dynamic and finding gems becomes very important. Anyway, if you want to try something different, give it a go.
So yahoo now allows 8 FF teams per account, used to be 4. Gives us more room to try novelty formats without increasing the hassle of new sites/account swapping/etc.
I’d be interested in creating a new league this year if we can think of something new that people would be interested in. I’ve wanted to do a best-ball league for a while - that’s where you draft, say, 20 guys and have 8 starting positions - and then after the games whatever combination of players would’ve resulted in the top scores is what you get. This changes the draft strategy to favor guys who do nothing often but occasionally explode for big weeks over guys who put up 7 points every week. Could be interesting… you could go with a relatively small number of players but with deep rosters.
Yahoo doesn’t support this in any automatic way, but we could do it manually if there was interest. Or… are there any free sites that support best ball FF?
Another idea is to have a defensive fantasy league - where you draft an entire starting defense. We’ve had some debate about defensive scoring in the past with no consensus though, but it’s an interesting prospect and I’ll give it a try if people are interested.
If you have other ideas for interesting FF leagues, please post them, if there’s interest we can see about organizing them.
I would be open to giving a defensive league a shot if there is enough interest. I’ll also drop in a plug for the new 2QB league that Oakminster started which has 5 or 6 open spaces still. League thread here.
In a 12 team PPR keeper league (we keep 3), what type of trade value should I ask for Vick? I’ve got Tebow as my second QB. I’ve got both Deangelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart as potential keeper runnings backs as well as Brandon Lloyd, Steve Smith (Panthers), and Malcolm Floyd as potential keeper WRs.
Why not keep Vick? I mean, presumably you’re going to keep whoever you get traded in exchange for Vick, so it’s not like you free up a keeper slot. If you had Vick and another good QB, you could make that trade, but why are you anxious to hand your reigns over to Tebow? Is there some other conisderation I’m missing?
Anyway, I’ve got a cancellation for the auction league, so I’m looking to recruit someone else for that.
I’d just like to take this opportunity to remind everyone just how much I crushed all leagues last year.
Those were our aggregate ranks through the regular season last year. Ellis Dee wrote a cool app that let us enter the results from our league and extract various bits of data from them, including the graph above which does a comparison of everyone who played in 2 or more SDMB leagues.
Rather than rank them by games won or what place they were in or anything like that, he set it up so that every week your score would be compared to every other player in your league. If you had a score higher than 8 of them and lower than 3, your record for that week would be 8-3. This is an effective way of indicating cross-league performance using leagues of different sizes.
The first column is the ideal data - if you had put the best possible players into the starting slots of your team. It’s a sign that you were able to get the talent on your team. The second column is about how many points you actually did score with the roster you set, and so it includes an element of game management skills in picking the right guys to start. In my view, the second column is the more concrete, real number.
Which means across 4 leagues, my record had I faced every team in the league every week would be roughly 500-200. Which absolutely crushed everyone else. And across 4 leagues too - it’s relatively easy to do well in one league and have that distort the sample size if you’re only in two leagues, but I did well across all 4 I was in.
I finished the all-pro league regular season at 11-2 as the number 1 seed and as the top scorer by a margin of 200 points. (Top 3 scores: 1529, 1345, 1317)
I finished the auction league at 11-3 as the number 1 seed and top scorer by a margin of about 300 points (1745, 1385, 1350)
I finished the big league at 9-4 as the number 3 seed (bad luck with H2H matchups) but as the top scorer for the second year in a row. Not by a huge margin this time (top 3 1530, 1520, 1418)
I finished in the dynasty league at 10-4 as the 3 seed, but this time as the 5th scorer. This is the only league I didn’t utterly crush, but to be fair it’s a league where I didn’t get a chance to draft my players that year, I was stuck with a sub-par roster from previous years.
Overall, though, the best fantasy performance the SDMB has ever seen and will likely ever see again. Bow to me, for I am your fantasy master.
Yeah you’ll see that kind of dominance from time to time if one person drafts the same players in multiple leagues and guesses right that year, although maybe not to that extent. It definitely goes to show you had the draft down last year. How many of those four did you win by the way? One, right?
What you probably won’t see, though, is any other person making that post. 
I haven’t seen any sort of dominance like that before in all my years of FF.
My drafts in the different leagues were pretty subtsantially different. The all pro and auction leagues doing snake vs auction generally make the team makeup pretty different. And the big league is an entirely different game with the talent spread over 20 rosters, you can’t assemble the equivelant of a 12 team roster there.
Drafted starters in the various leagues:
All-pro
Schaub
AP
R Brown
C Johnson
Bowe
Z Miller
Pittsburgh
Auction
Rodgers
Mendenhall
Foster
C Johnson
Owens
Massaquoi
Winslow
Pit
Big league
V Young
J Charles
Best
Stewart
Nicks
Boldin
Bowe
Scaife
TEN
Of course my rosters changed throughout the year, but even the final rosters aren’t that similar.
Plus I came in first in scoring in both years of the big league where my natural chance of winning should be 1 in 20, and this was with different auction types, so that’s pretty remarkable alone I think.
I think you realize that your odds of winning that Big League aren’t 1 in 20. I’d go as far to say that your odds of winning go up in proportion to the more players involved, when the total pool of players is limited to this one site(?!).
I have a very vague idea of the point you’re trying to make but it’s so malformed and illogical as to be indecipherable.
By “natural chance of winning” I meant that if this were just a random contest, my chances of winning twice would be 1/20 * 1/20 = 1/400. But my actual chances are much higher than random chance because my knowledge and skill are above average. That’s my point - the chances of it being a fluke are very low.
Who’s your other QB? I would keep Vick and trade Tebow.
The other idea I’ve had for a new league would be to have the league redraft several times through the season. Drafting is fun and it’ll be interesting who can average the best draft several times as player values change. You can’t do this with yahoo - their drafts stop sometime early in the season. But is there a site out there that will allow this? Either through actually holding another draft, or I suppose creating a new league every X weeks and then adding the total scores up across the leagues.
If there were some automatic way to do it, I’d be happy to redraft every week, but I doubt that’d be practical. Maybe once every 3 or 4 weeks? We could extend the season into the playoffs too with redrafts.
Would anyone be interested in such a concept? Does anyone know a site where we could do something like this?
In my pay league (10 teams this year) every team keeps one player who was taken in the 5th round and later. Additionally, a team may keep another player but must give up its 4th round pick .
I’m already keeping Hakeem Nicks, but can also keep Mike Wallace. Would you keep Wallace in exchange for your 4th round pick? It’s a 6pt for any TD league.
You could probably draft him in the 6th if you wanted to.
At first it seems like a bad idea, but if you went RB-RB-QB-Nicks-TE-Wallace you’d have a pretty strong core.
Keep in mind that the question isn’t necesarily “is Wallace worth a fourth round pick” but “is Wallace worth a fourth round pick in a draft in which 20 of the best players are off the board due to being kept?” Keeper leagues take a lot of the most valuable players out of the draft, so the talent drops off faster than in a normal draft. Wallace can be worth a fourth if the top 6 WRs are gone and by round 3 you’re already scraping for second tier guys. It partly depends on how many WRs were kept too to determine how scarce the remaining quality WRs are.