It may not be relevant to the Trump case, but I think precedent is a concern. Wider precedent than the notion that they might need to prosecute another former President. It’s not just for the President precedent that the DOJ want to trump Trump.
FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024
They did file an appeal of the full ruling.
This particular decision was for an emergency stay on a more narrowly tailored part of the ruling, as time was a factor. But considering the tenor of this decision, the full appeal is probably not going to go well for Team Trump.
Plus, strategically, it was well done. A decision on the appeal could well have taken longer with no work being done in the mean time, but they got a fast decision on the important bits they needed to keep things going.
Are we tired of winning yet? Trump promised us we’d get tired of all the winning.
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Yeah, I did overlook that until it was mentioned in this thread. Who would have thought it, it turns out the DOJ knows more about legal strategy than I do!
Does he not understand the difference between an electronic communication and a physically on paper one? As far as I know, the FBI did not seize and drives or memory sticks, and 30,000 printed emails would be a lot of paper.
So, am I understanding this correctly? There is no Special Master now? We don’t get to see any more of Dearie smacking down Trump’s legal team?
No, the special master does exist. However, the classified documents are not under his purview anymore.
Ah, OK. Thanks for the clarification.
(Just to add) the classified documents are by far the most important part of the case and where the criminal indictments may lie. The rest of it pertains to the Presidential Records Act and is mostly pretty boring stuff.
What I don’t understand is why TFG, having her e-mails in his hands, did not sell them to Fox News or to the highest bidder. Or publish them in small bites on Twitter his Truth-Thingy. Perhaps 50 new users would have signed up! Or four dozen, well rounded up. Or why he did not at least try to blackmail the Clintons, as any self respecting slimey scoundrel worth his salt would. And he would have bragged about it long ago, in one of his über-attended rallies.
How on Earth did he think anyone would believe he had those e-mails? Is this five-dimensional doublespeak?
Oh, sweet summer child. I wouldn’t say anything is unthinkable to the Supreme court as it is currently constituted.
It was mentioned a couple times in the Trump team’s filing to the 11th circuit that the appointment of a special master is not appeal-able at all. Is this true? If so, since the rest of Cannon’s order was mainly about the appointment of a special master (twisted legal theories notwithstanding), would that mean that they can’t appeal the remainder of the order? Or could they appeal on the grounds that jurisdiction was assumed in error (as it appears the 11th circuit concluded definitively), which would make any ruling Cannon handed down moot? Finally, would/could a court that doesn’t hear the appeal until after the special master concludes his duties still retroactively vacate the ruling so that it doesn’t stand as precedent?
It’s been highlighted in the media that the panel of the 11th Circuit that reversed Cannon included two “Trump judges.” But these weren’t Trump judges — they were McConnell judges. The biggest mistake Trump made during his Presidency is that he handed over judicial appointments to McConnell. And McConnell filled every Supreme and Circuit Court vacancy with carefully vetted Federalist Society drones who are fully loyal to the conservative cause and have zero loyalty or affection for Trump.
The only reason Cannon herself got appointed is because it was a district court seat, where the most senior home state Senator of the President’s party is usually allowed to name the nominee. Maybe Rubio wanted to buttress his MAGA credentials.
Every time I hear about the special master having to sift through 10,000ish documents, I think they DOJ should allow it, but give them the same amount of time the FBI was allowed to investigate Kavanaugh. I’m sure 4 days is more than enough time.
I thought the top secret documents were supposed to be stored in a special super-room, one of which was at MaL, and was (I thought I read) decommissioned. So, these documents were floating around his pool room, and also his office, and in his desk. Did whoever moved these boxes around MaL have top secret clearance? I would have thought that individual boxes would be closed with seals, but I never saw anything like that.
Lock him up!
SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility). Apparently, there was one at MaL, and it was decommissioned when Trump left office.
Well, at least there’s something we can be thankful to Mitch McConnell for. I feel like I should go boil my hands after typing that.
Individual 1 told Hannity that the FBI were looking for Hillary’s emails.
In Barron’s bedroom.