Also, this is a confession.
FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024
As I’m thinking about it, after all this talk of planting evidence, I’m surprised we haven’t caught him trying to plant evidence on anyone.
Hunter Biden laptop.
He forgot to accuse the FBI of planting bugs. Or removing the old ones. Or both.
“George H.W. Bush took millions of documents to a former bowling alley and a former Chinese restaurant where they combined them. So they’re in a bowling alley slash Chinese restaurant.”
Is this at all related to a real event? It sounds too specific to be totally fabricated from whole cloth.
Read this article.
A key portion of the story:
Although still in the planning stages, the library already has run into controversy. Just a few hours before Bill Clinton’s inauguration, Donald Wilson, then archivist of the United States, who is now executive director of the Bush Presidential Library Center, signed an agreement giving Bush control over several thousand computer tapes that hold millions of electronic messages sent by White House staff members.
Critics charged that the deal violates the 1978 Presidential Records Act, which ensures government control of presidential records and obligates the National Archives to make them public “as rapidly and completely as possible.” That law was passed partly to ensure that Richard M. Nixon would not destroy the Watergate tapes.
Less than one month later, Wilson was hired to run the Bush Center, prompting conflict-of-interest charges from Democrats. The Justice Department is still investigating the case.
Note that this was almost 30 years ago. The DOJ investigated complaints back then. I presume the documents are now in the late president’s library.
Another article about that. Article states the documents were guarded and some were classified and required top secret clearance to access.
The bowling alley was apparently not enough for the millions of pages of documents, so some of the documents were kept next door to the bowling alley in what used to be the kitchen of a Chinese restaurant.
ETA - My parents are getting an earful of trump’s claims about how previous presidents handled their records and falling for the “woe is me” witch hunt crybaby’s claims. So that is likely the message millions more trumpeters are also getting and absorbing, unfortunately.
Well that doesn’t sound good. But at least Bush had the archivist involved and did it all openly with some veneer of legality.
Yes, Trump’s attempt here to paint what he did as normal is of course a big fail outside of the people who already think he can do no wrong.
Of course. It’s just that what Bush did is not quite as innocuous as I would have guessed.
There’s another one going on about Obama “storing millions of records in a furniture store.” Snopes had this to say:
Both classified and unclassified records from the Obama presidency were temporarily located in Hoffman Estates, a suburb of Chicago, in a building that used to be an old furniture store. However, while the Obama Foundation provided funds to move and store those records, it had neither possession nor control of them, given that they were in the custody of the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) from the day Obama left office.
Ha! So it’s the equivalent of saying, “For eight years, Obama was storing his documents in an old building that was so insecure, foreign invaders set it on fire!”
But her emails!
So let me get this straight, Trump knew that Obama had mishandled government documents and let it be for four years while he was in a position to nail him for it but didn’t. Right.
Yes, so? You are stating that a lack of a warrant means the DOJ does not have probable cause. However, I am stating that lack of warrant today doesn’t mean lack of warrant tomorrow, and that it just means that the justice system takes time to turn probable cause into action, especially with such a high profile case.
But Trump has been to those locations since the document disappeared.
Good point, place of business that he would spend time in and have places to hide documents should be open as well.
I only meant to restrict it to mean that just because he owns a property, it does not mean that’s where he may have stashed classified documents. Many of the properties he owns are privately leased.
Because it’s a place that he has access to and spends time in.
How often is a search of a house limited to a single room where the investigators have narrowed the search?
Those are all possibilities for any sort of contraband that police may be looking for when they get a warrant.
There are indeed two justice systems in America, as I know of people who have had their houses searched with much less than that.
The Deep State and Democrats and witch-hunters, and, uh, RINOs, and, hmm… Illegals? Wouldn’t let him. He was too busy stoically protecting everyone against the Chinese and countering all the fake news to devote time to it.
But re-elect him and he’ll finally drain the swamp all the way this time!
Is he doing this himself? Does he have any loyalists left who would risk the consequences of hiding or destroying them? Does he have any he could trust?
Not only that, it’s reported that Trump had a scheme to trade the documents he stole for other documents in the government’s possession that would “prove” the Russia investigation into the 2016 election was a hoax. I can’t help but wonder why he didn’t take those documents instead of the ones he had in his possession before they were seized.
But let’s remember this is the same person who directed the FBI to find evidence to prove there was no pee tape. (In my mind, that proved there is a pee tape.)
The argument that people “typically” do things is no longer enough, in my experience. We used to include in our drug case warrants language along the lines of (paraphrased) “Drug dealers typically possess firearms and use them to protect their drugs and money” and "“Drug dealers will typically destroy evidence if given a chance to do so”. Both statements are true and this would be the basis for requesting a No Knock warrant. The courts eventually said, “But why do you thing this particular drug dealer has guns or will destroy evidence?” Either we supplied particular information that supported our beliefs or we didn’t get the No Knock. Granted, this was a state court.
But you still get the warrant, the court just doesn’t see the need to escalate it to a “no knock” warrant, right?