And the need-to-know.
When I was in the navy I had clearances as high as the Skippers’ but there was a lot of stuff he knew I did not, because he needed it to do his job while I didn’t.
FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024
I wanted to say thanks for posting that USA Today graphic. I think it’s quite useful to help the average person grasp the significant differences in scope of various stray documents between the 3 men.
The graphic can’t include the point that Teams Biden and Pence are cooperating, and following proper procedure as best as possible. 45 and team have fought and obstructed every nanometer of the way.
We called him Cheesy. The reason for that was because his mom always gave him slices of cheese. You’d think it was because of his surname, but it wasn’t. And, he had a really big head, sniper’s dream, they used to call him.
The stuff on Clinton’s server wasn’t properly marked classified. IIRC it wasn’t until a security review that officials decided that the information in some of those emails shouldn’t have been sent via unclassified email.
In other words, we don’t know if the files on this thumb drive were marked. Them not being marked doesn’t change the classification of the material but it could provide an alibi.
Also, classified documents aren’t usually numbered and you’re allowed to make copies.
Only a folder with Classified markings on it was discovered, and I was under the impression that the documents came from that folder; in which case they would have been marked.
I see. I missed that they were the same files as the hard copies that were turned over. I stand corrected.
I was under the impression. I may be wrong.
Nope, thats what was reported, you’re right.
Thank you for looking into it.
Do you have a reference for that? I’ve been retired for a few years but that was never the case. Everything I pulled in NucWep world was numbered and you signed them out be that number; 4/7, 3/12 …etc.
Which makes it all the more remarkable that this system was defeated in its entirety by a spoiled child saying “MINE MINE MINE!”
When that spoiled child gets elected President of the United States…
Depends on the level of classification. In my experience, SCI level stuff gets the full document numbers with a documented chain of custody on file for every instance of the document. Even when it’s in the safe, someone is responsible for it. If you don’t need it anymore, you sign it over to someone who does need it, or to someone in document destruction.
On the other hand, plain old DoD Confidential/Secret/Top Secret stuff doesn’t have control numbers and can be tossed in a burn barrel when done. No traceability whatsoever. You can’t make copies yourself, but you can print out stuff yourself as long as the printer is in a SCIF. Then you can walk out the door and read it at your desk in your unclassified office, as long as you close the door and stick it in an approved safe before you go home.
Cite: My experience in the 90s, 00s and 10s at various defense contractors.
Even if the documents are marked, if you are copying them to a thumb drive, you aren’t opening them to see if they are classified.
As an aside, my company pushed updates to everone’s computers probably two years ago that disabled plugging in thumb drives. I don’t recall if that was mostly to prevent the drives from importing viruses or to prevent people from exporting documents.
Most likely, it is both. No one wants their intellectual property compromised or stolen in this manner any longer.
Another subpoena executed on Trump last month, to get a folder marker “classified”:
From here:
An attorney for Donald Trump said the latest classified folder turned over to investigators was just that ― a folder, and a folder alone ― which the former president used to block a light that was bothering him at night.
“He has one of those landline telephones next to his bed, and it has a blue light on it, and it keeps him up at night,” Parlatore said. “So he took the manila folder and he put it over it so that it would keep the light down so he could sleep at night.”
But wait, it gets stupider:
“Now the president has to find a different way to keep the blue light out of his eyes,” he said.
I can’t understand how anyone can support this guy for any position of power when he can’t even figure out how to block the light from his phone at night without committing a federal crime and risking national security.
The funny thing is he very likely assumes that we all do it. He has no clue how bizarrely out of touch he is with reality.
They actually make a product for that. I have a sheet of light-dimming LED covers just for that purpose. But only because I don’t have access to classified material, which make the best light blocking tools.
I guess Donnie never listened to Car Talk, where they taught us how to take care of a pesky Check Engine Light by covering it with black electrical tape.