FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence, August 8, 2022, Case Dismissed July 15, 2024

Trump has now claimed that he declassified everything. Kind of like a priest consecrating communion wafers, I guess – he just waved his hands over the safe at Mar-a-lago and said “hocus pocus, you’re all declassified.”

But from what I read, it doesn’t matter - the Espionage Act is not predicated on the classification of the materials.

And I’m waiting with bated breath to hear Trump’s explanation as to why he felt he needed to have classified nuclear secrets at Mar-a-lago. Any moment now, I’m sure.

Remember the closed door meeting with Putin in Helsinki when Trump walked out of the room looking like a beaten dog? All of this makes me wonder if that’s when Putin gave him his marching orders. At least, to me, it sounds plausible. On the other hand, maybe he really is just that stupid. It’s hard to tell with him.

Here’s something that interests me, but I’ll admit is a fairly irrelevant side show.

The Receipt For Property unsealed today contains:

Description of Item(s):
1 - Executive Grant of Clemency re: Roger Jason Stone, Jr.
1A - Info re: President of France
2 …

What does Roger Stone’s clemency have to do with Emmanuel Macron?

A good question. Regardless of his intelligence, or lack thereof, I wonder if, because of his money and privilege, he never really needed his brain to any extent and, thus, never learned how to think critically or morally.

But how did he know which documents that FBI was going to plant so he could declassify them before hand?

And did Biden take classified information about defense nuclear weapons with him to sell?

“but but but… . Biden!” is a pretty lame tu quoque. Try harder.

I think you’ve grossly misread what I was saying.

In an ideal world, Garland will be free to prosecute Trump in accordance with the law and with reason. If Trump is guilty of selling national secrets to Saudi Arabia then he should be prosecuted for it.

In the real world, that might not be politically feasible and despite Biden’s personal stance that he shouldn’t interfere with the work of the Justice Department, he could end up having to tell him that he needs to avoid that whole avenue of inquiry.

If Trump was doing something with Turkey or someone, Garland should be able to proceed without issue. If it’s the Saudis, though, the “espionage” angle might be dropped in favor of preferring cases related to Jan 6, failure to pay taxes, financial crimes, etc.

It sucks but the US has a history of looking the other way any time something bad involves Saudi Arabia.

I don’t know if that’ll impact this particular case, but in general that has been how it is.

Still don’t follow. Trump selling nuclear secrets to the Saudi’s should get a pass, because Biden made a recent trip to Saudi Arabia? And what’s the BS about Biden “begging”?

The latest from Beau of the Fifth Column. I haven’t viewed all of his videos, but have very much appreciated the ones I have. He talks about the given issue of the moment with valuable (to me) insight, delivered calmly (no fire-and-brimstone appeals to emotion). Today, he allowed his anger to show, without letting it devolve into a rant.

I’m a realist. Begging was a political necessity. Begging happened. That is reasonable and as it should be. It’s not a slur

Given the evidence, I think it is about time to pull his passport and put him and his plane on the no fly list.
Exiled dictators (with influence) can be a problem.

It was 44 years ago. it’s either a long list or a really slow department enforcing it.

He’s echoing what I suggested earlier. The President can’t just say, “This is declassified.” There is a process for it, because people need to know the classification of documents. It seems like simple common sense. It’s the equivalent of Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy by yelling it in public.

Except this was just him deciding in his own mind to do it, not even telling anyone else. Supposedly.

There are main three types of intelligence:
Sigint – Signals. Communications, either voice or code which is what I worked with.

Elint – Electronic. Non-communicating emissions, principally radar. That’s what I worked with when I got out of the navy.

Humint – Human. Your classic spy stuff, following someone around, finding where they live, eat, etc. Also someone dropping a dime on them. That was not me

And yes, it can be either the intelligence itself or the process and equipment used to collect it.

“President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!”

– Donald Trump, August 12, 2022

How does anybody not see through this guy?

He carried them around in a wheelbarrow. A large wheelbarrow. Cartoonishly so. Who could have missed it?

Your general Trump supporter that is not motivated by racism, or hating to pay taxes (wades again into racism, because “they” get “my” money) is profoundly stupid.

That’s really helpful. Thank you.

“President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!”
– Donald Trump, August 12, 2022

OK, now would you like to comment without tacitly admitting that were unlawfully in possession of classified nuclear documents ?