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After they escape a riot, Travis, Liza and Chris seek refuge with the Salazars; Madison defends her home.
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FTWD is back tonight after skipping Labor Day weekend.
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The Calvary’s arrived; it’s going to get better now.
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Aww, that’s just adorable. 
Too bad the dog died because his dumbass family didn’t bother to close the door behind them. :mad:
Several times during The Walking Dead I mentioned that there was always one character who maintained that they weren’t really dead and that somehow they would be cured at some point. Hershel being the most obvious, but there were plenty of other holdouts throughout the seasons. I know it’s very, very early on, but it looks like they’re still going with that.
This show does like it’s tropes. If that’s the case, once Travis comes around, someone else will be the holdout for one reason or another. Religious, moral, medical, whatever.
Well at this point it still makes perfect sense to be reluctant to kill them.
Assuming that was directed at me…I understand that, I just wonder if that’s going to be a thread throughout the series like it was with The Walking Dead.
I yelled at the TV at that. Even if you don’t know it’s the start of the ZA, aren’t you worried about intruders like burglars, raccoons, opossums, moths and MOSQUITOS??? Gah!
An improvement over previous episodes. Still had frustrating points, but overall, it’s getting better.
So… knowing that people are getting sick and biting each other, and craziness is happening, would YOU leave the house and leave the friggin’ back door open? Particularly if there is a gate or opening or hole in the fence that was big and obvious enough that a brain dead individual could notice it and go, “Hey, free lunch,” and wander into your back yard? Particularly considering that mere hours earlier, we saw the neighbors chasing each other around and attacking each other? Strike one.
If you were desperate enough to break into a neighbor’s house in order to steal their firearms and locate their ammunition, would you then be dumb enough to leave said ammunition sitting on their coffee table while you charged to the rescue? Strike two.
And when the National Guard showed up out of nowhere and began shooting the neighbors, and then asked you what your name was, if this was your house, and how many other people were IN your house, would your answer be anything except, “None. We’re SO out of here NOW?” Steeerrriiiike – Then again, we have established that Papa Travis is an idiot. He will soon cowboy up, or he will die, and his wife and his ex will be our viewpoint characters. Not sure which I’m rooting for at this point.
But I did have one problem solved: They gave Ruben Blades something to do. Took long enough, but it turns out they DID give him a character to play with. I have hopes.
I feel bad for the poor dog, though. And Griselda. Talk about a really bad time to break your leg…
I kind of miss Talking Dead at this point.
“So why did your characters just run off and leave the frickin’ back door open? Ha, ha, ha…”
“Well, we’re all freaked out and in fact, we just aren’t very BRIGHT, Chris! After all, you’ll remember last week, my character broke into a school to steal drugs and food, and then forgot to bring the food, and then gave away most of the drugs to a complete stranger… I think we’re all really just terrified idiots, we really are! Ha, ha, ha!”
“And now, special guest Robert Kirkman! Tell me, do you regret not having Frank Darabont around to help launch your new show?”
“Oh, ghod, yes, Chris, I bitterly regret shafting him the way we did. Even if this show manages to survive, we’ll never make a cent off the first season DVDs. Our characters are unlikable idiots, we killed off all the black people in Los Angeles, we didn’t give the interesting kid anything to do and dropped him after the second episode… hell, no one’s ever going to want to watch the first season, ever again, really. I miss Frank Darabont like a baby misses his mommy, I really do.”
Yeah, it’s almost like they’re normal people who are in the first few hours of something they have never conceived of instead of hardened zombie survival literature veterans or something. How dare they act like normal people? They should know better by now although I have no idea why they should.
I mean, after watching people killing and eating people, when the government comes in and establishes order which is the one thing I’ve been waiting for, of course I’m going to be all “we’ll just go it alone, undermanned and undergunned (not to mention undertrained and with no real plan ) and having no idea what we’re dealing with. This is so much better than being guarded by the army trying to restore order.”
I look forward to the weekly criticism of every little detail of their survival almost as much as I enjoy watching them actually survive. I think the best part of TWD phenomenon is how it allows armchair zombie afficionados to feel smart.
Nitpick, she never went in for food, only drugs which she did take. Nothing stupid there unless you happen to know it’s a zombie apocalypse and well, if you know what that even means.
As for giving them away, they would either be used by your junkie son to get high or by a seriously injured woman. Now, if you didn’t know it was a zombie apocalypse or even what that was nor had any idea that society would not be there tomorrow, who would get those drugs hmm?
As for the poll, this was the first week I have voted loved. This series might be growing on me. I still don’t care for most of the characters though. I don’t dislike anybody but I’m not vested in anybody yet either.
The oxycodone? was for tapering Nick down from his heroin dependence, NOT to get him high. The zombie apoc is not the time to be going through acute opiate WD.
The what? They don’t know what a zombie apocalyps is. They have no idea what is happening or how widespread it is. There’s nothing that should lead them to believe that they will need these meds more than a couple of days which she kept. For all they know if they get far enough society still will exist and they can get more meds. And you know what? At least as far as we’ve seen, she was right. If he needs more meds surely the army doctors can provide them for him. Now, will they? If you didn’t know what a zombie apocalypse was why would you believe that they wouldn’t?
I look forward to the weekly fanatic hand-waving in defense of obvious nonsense in order to… well, I don’t know why people would be so invested that they would overlook dumb stuff. For instance, I got a kick out of one of the trailers for TWD in which one of the actors said something about the walls around their town being really thin, and they showed a ahot of the walls in danger of being breeched. No, the main problem with the walls is that they are backwards - for no apparent reason and unremarked upon by any characters on the show.
Last night’s episode was full of stupidity, as per usual with this show. For example, and in no particular order:
They are forced to flee the barber shop because the walls start bubbling from heat, but go outside to … no fire and no smoke.
There’s a riot going on all around them, but there’s a shot of a “phalanx” of FOUR riot police, one of whom is thumping his shield with a baton. Dude, I don’t think anyone is intimidated by the shield thumping when they cannot hear it over the sound of the riot going on all around you. Also, a phalanx doesn’t really work when you’re completely surrounded. (Later they show about 12 riot cops loosely arrayed in a line - so… random pockets of phalanxes? None of which are near the water cannon anyway, which itself is spraying in random directions?
They see cop cars overturned and burning hulks of vehicles as they run a block or two to… their completely untouched pickup truck, which they…turn around to drive right back toward the riot…along streets that are … completely clear for traffic.
Who builds a maze of a garden in a backyard? Most people with gardens like to be able to easily access everything when they tend to it.
In advance of their fleeing to the “desert”, they spend their time…playing Monopoly. Why not spend the time packing, and uh…finding your dog(!?) and figuring how to transport him or leave him with enough food. Quite the beloved pet.
The guy returns to his zombie wife to get a hug and just at the last moment before being bitten…a national guard? guy comes from out of nowhere to immediately suss out the situation, know who was who, and score a headshot. I mean, they showed the fact that the streets were devoid of military just seconds before, and then an immediate military presence intercedes in the back yard?
And there are enough military resources that this one street of this one subdivision is getting visited by two Chinooks and about 100 armed service members? A neighborhood where just minutes ago people were wheeling trash cans to the street? Uh, dudes I think there was a riot going on that you might be able to help with, or the complete collapse of a medical facility. But sure, let’s shock and awe this one quiet street.
What was junkie kid planning to do with a small screwdriver to the barred window? Were there drugs right on the windowsill? Was he going to crack open the window and reach in to get them?
Who thought spending narrative time on a junkie kid protagonist was a good choice? “How can we really make this story about society’s collapse interesting? How can we make sure that viewers will identify with our protagonists as they cope with everything? I know, make one of them a junkie!”
My biggest beef with the episode was with the dog. How did a zombie go toe to toe with a big ass German Shepard and win? That dog would either tear the zombie to pieces - or realize it was losing and run away. No way dog ends up on the ground getting chewed on - I just don’t see it.
Poor puppy:(
A junkie kid protagonist wearing some old guy’s clothes. He’s home now, and he’s already thrown up on himself a couple times. You’d think he’d want to change out of that stuff at some point.
With that said, I didn’t have that much of a problem with the behavior of the family in that episode. They’re still not entirely clear on what is going on, and they don’t have much in the way of survival skills, so mistakes will be made.
As for the four-cop phalanx, I’m guessing either budget problems or some of the extras didn’t show up that day. It did look fairly hilariously cheesy.
I listened to Kirkman on Marc Maron’s WTF podcast recently, and it gave me insight into why this show may be the way that it is. First, he wasn’t especially insightful or bright, but more fundamentally, his approach to comic writing lacked any investment in the subject. For example, his first comic was about professional wrestling. Not because he is interested in the subject, but because he thought there would be a market for it. He developed a comic called Battle Pope because Battle Pope sounds cool and hey, a pope who kicks ass!
It is not surprising that, given that approach, this show struggles to develop meaningful characters, and that it regularly goes for stuff because it would be cool instead of making any sense.
Wouldn’t everyone and their brother be Googling? Watching internet videos? Aren’t there horror movie/book/graphic novel buffs?
This was a solid episode.The show seems to improve as the weeks progress which is promising.
As usual though, I felt worse for an animal getting killed then any human character.
I liked the sense of dread the blackout caused when they were driving home in the truck. Is it possible the dog won’t stay buried? I don’t remember seeing a quadroped walker in this universe. I am trying to find characters I like in this show, but so far I am hoping most of them die off, a feeling I have not had since watching Voyager.