They didn’t take over the whole world. Where did you get the idea they did?
That he later sneaks into their bedroom, grabs a knife and is all set to start using it on Madison and Alicia kind of puts the lie on his ‘I don’t want to hurt anyone’, though. Because not hurting anyone is usually not accomplished by poking people with pointy things.
I’ve been fairly critical of this show and disappointed in both the characters and overall story. However, this was the first episode I enjoyed. Maybe it is because for me at this point my expectations of this show are as low as it can get so it seemed much better.
I do think Strand was sincere in his offer to join Thomas when he died. I just think we’ve seen through back-story and previous episodes that at his core Strand isn’t exactly a “good guy”. He isn’t above lying, stealing, bribing, and cheating to get what he wants. We saw that in the backstory where he met Thomas and stole his credit cards to buy things he couldn’t afford so that he appeared wealthy and successful. In the first season when we met the character, he was bribing the guards with jewelry (watch, cuff links) to get special treatment. He used Nick to help him with his plans to escape. That’s not to say he also doesn’t have aspirations to be a better person, but like many he is flawed and his self-interests drive his actions. So as Thomas got closer to dying I think a part of him wanted to honor his promise to join him, to be good enough for Thomas as Ceilia put it. But in the end, his desire to go on living won out over his desire to be viewed as good enough and so deeply in love with Thomas he’d die with him. I don’t believe he was lying the whole time or just said that to Thomas to help him let go of his life. To me this is a much needed bit of script writing to finally give us some depth to a character that we could buy-in to and start to care about.
On the negative side, the confrontation between mom and dad (still can’t bother with their names, nor the names of their brood) seems really poorly written. It escalated unnaturally and seemed very forced. It was like they went from opening statement which could cause conflict to full blown conflict without anything in between.
Me: I like pizza.
Wife: I like ice cream. I WANT A DIVORCE YOU BASTARD FOR NOT LIKING ICE CREAM!
Random thoughts:
Are they making Chris the anti-Carl (CORAL!)? Where Carl has been exposed to TWD and had his angsty moments, he adjusted in a more-or-less healthy way to the new reality of zombie and human threats. He is a part of the group, heavily vested in protecting his family and friends. It seems Chris is going the other way.
Anyone else think the owl in the tree secretly held a camera and listening device?
Salazar seems to know exactly who this group is. Well, maybe not “exactly” but seems to have from his past information that is allowing him to see this compound and Celia/Thomas as fairly dangerous. Perhaps even knowing what the organization is that using an owl as a symbol.
It’s a Mexican religious thing not an organization. I’m sure you’ve heard of Day of The Dead which is kind of like Halloween but instead of asking strangers for candy you go to your family cemetary and talk to your dead. Day of the Dead - Wikipedia and the Queen of the Dead (an owl is one of her symbols) Santa Muerte - Wikipedia
I swear someone is leaking TWD manuscripts to ZNation because last season that’s where ZNation went. Before it seemed like ZNation was just riffing off all zombie shows but the last few arcs/scenes have came before the airing of certain episodes. There was the zombie tornado scene and then the whole Queen of the Dead arc.
Thanks for educating me a bit more. I knew a little about the Day of the Dead/Santa Muerte but I didn’t know about the owl being a symbol. And I also watch Z Nation and was getting that same vibe in this episode. Haha
A screen writer in an interview said that the wimp was going to apologize to step Mother and sister, that he picked the knife up when he heard the gun shot whack Abigail.
The next time I want to apologize to someone for appearing to want them dead, I’ll remember that the best way to do so is to creep into their bedroom at night! Because nothing says “I’m sorry” like showing up in someone’s bedroom while they’re sleeping.
Strand strikes me as someone who’s always looking for a BBD (bigger better deal) kind of guy and suicide isn’t on his bucket list. The writers forgot, or the editors cut, the actual conversation of Strand and Thomas discussing the ending their lives together. Bad writers. Bad, bad, bad. 
I wondered who’s been doing that? How’d you get past the dog? :eek: 
I agree that it doesn’t look good. However, Mr. teenage screw up didn’t bring a weapon with him, which he could/would have done if he was truly attempting to murder two sleeping people. Someone on the TD mentioned the possibility of him picking up the knife and realizing that the knife was there as a defense against him. The compound is supposed to be safe from outsiders but not insiders. Maybe the writers are continuing the storyline of his being a screw up who’s now been found in the wrong place at the wrong time???
Meh, kids go into their parent’s bedroom.
I always knocked, and sometimes Dad was very, very pissed.
But this isn’t his parent. It’s his father’s girlfriend and her daughter. Chris hardly knew them. Pre-apocalypse he lived with his divorced mom and seemingly had a somewhat strained relationship with his dad. Further strained now that dad capped mom. Resenting the surviving girlfriend and her spawn may not be rationally justified, but Chris doesn’t seem to be particularly rational.
Most of the other characters are written so poorly as to be unbelievable. Chris I can at least understand and accept as realistic. I just don’t like him or give a rat’s ass about his fate.
The argument between mom and dad (which I agree escalated bizarrely) seemed to include the dad saying that the daughter was both of theirs, not just hers. If he’s supposed to be the biological father of the two whitest children in white town, color me confused. This whole time I’ve been assuming that their biological father just wasn’t in the picture, and that they were his step-kids. (Actually, he claimed the super-white daughter as his own, but seemed to want credit for acting like a father to the very white son, so is he just the daughter’s father but not Nick’s?)
This episode sold me on Strand really loving Thomas. As in, not pretending to be gay. The clincher was Strand’s reaction when he first saw Thomas’ car, when nobody who had ever even met Thomas was within earshot. Then I bought into his sincerity when he first discussed the suicide pact with Thomas, and I again bought into his deciding to go another way after the wafers were there in the room. Well done all around, I thought. Seemed like genuine feelings and reactions the whole way through, even though they included changing his mind.
I don’t fully follow what you mean. There was a scene where Strand and Thomas discussed ending their lives together.
Agreed, and I’m pretty sure we’ve seen the entirety of their relationship. As in, we saw Chris meet both of them for the first time.
Oh yeah, and this was apparently the mid-season finale? Meaning it will come back when, July? Or will it come back in such a way that when the second half of the season ends, the following week will be the new season of The Walking Dead? So, like, late August to early October?
No, there’s one more episode before the break.
Not seeing any date for the rest of FtWD yet.
WD returns for season 7 in October.
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I must have missed it. I’ll take your word for it. I really don’t want to view the episode again.
The parishioners weren’t poisoned, that was just the blood of Christ trying to get the heck outta there because zombies!
Hell in a hand cart, man. :dubious:
I didn’t take it to mean that Travis is the biological father of the teen-girl (can’t remember her name). He’s trying to make them all one big family.
He picked a really, really bad time for it.