FinnAgain is kind of a shitty person.

[FinnAgain]

Ah, problems with editing last minute, obviously your obsession over me is an 11.5 on a one to ten scale with one being not knowing who I am.

Of course, as you’ve failed to address your frothing meltdown in GD where you couldn’t even address the topic (to say nothing of your lies here about the one bit of your idiocy you would touch on), let’s see some more Leander’s Greatest Frothing Hits, yes? Like how over and over, even in GD, you can’t possible provide actual factual or logical refutations, and just froth about how angry I make you.

@leander

This is refreshing to hear. Now could you please bring your friend **FinnAgain **in line? You have just described his behaviour to a tee, and as you point out, it does such a disservice to your cause. Frankly, it’s embarrassing.

How about how you are a liar who gets his head handed to him for making shit up about Israel?

@tomndebb

@leander

@Captain_Amazing

Israel wasn’t harvesting organs without consent. One doctor was harvesting organs without consent.

This is incorrect. Please read the article again.

No. You need to indicate where in the article there is an assertion that this was an action undertaken by the government. We’re over a hundred posts into the thread where it has already been established that it was a rogue operation. If you want to claim that the “article” contradicts that, then you need to quote the relevant passage.

Later, as you’re a frothing liar, you retreated from a claim that it was a government activity to since it was an “operation” that involved “pathologists” you, well, Just had to Ask Questions:

@leander

Now we don’t really know if the Israeli government was involved or not; but we do know it was not one single doctor doing this. Some people will spin this any which way to support their bias.

(Irony is lost on frothing idiots)

Not only that, but I’d predicted your bullshit JAQing Off before you ever vomited it up:

@FinnAgain

Come on Tom, if we had a thread with a tangential relationship to Israel where someone wasn’t making claims that required ruthless fact-checking and debunking, I’d think I’d gotten alcohol poisoning over New Year’s and died, and that I was in Heaven now.
This is very reassuring.

For those who are curious, by the way, the Guardian has retitled the article. I guess the Ghost of Journalism Past bonked them on the noggin.

P.S. I’d suspect (or hope) that the quibble above isn’t really about how Israel as a nation or government was involved, since it obviously wasn’t, but that it wasn’t only one doctor who was involved since he used his underlings to a degree. After all, the Guardian article (which gets basic facts wrong like when the story broke) says that “pathologists” were involved, and that means that there were two or three doctors involved… perhaps even as many as half a dozen or so at the same facility under the command of the same administrator!!
(ahem)

Of course, you continued frothing and JAQing Off about Israeli governmental conspiracies:

@leander

I was responding to two statements: The first, that the Israeli govt was involved, is unknown. You seem to want to give them the benefit of the doubt. I find it odd that the military responded - so they knew it occured, but had no involvement. How did they gather the bodies? Who approved the transfer of organs? What was the chain of command? There are many questions that remain unanswered, but I know it’s much easier to hand wave them away.
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Now please provide your proof of the “current status of information [that] indicates that the Israeli government was not aware of the situation”. Has there been a formal investigation? Will there be? Or are you simply accepting “because they said so” as your evidence.

And as Tom responded, you weren’t even reading the damn thread before frothing about Israeli conspiracies.

@tomndebb

The military responded because a number of soldiers were among the cadavers whose coreas and other tissue were harvested.

To quote someone up thread, go read the links–only this time, instead of reading only the link in the OP, read the subsequent links and posts that detailed the story as it broke nearly ten years ago.

After that you told Tom that you refused to read the links and when I pointed out that it would be a good policy to read up on the topic of a thread, in the detailed links provided, before holding forth on it, you again started frothing about how much you dislike me and were stupid enough to conflate factual ignorance with a disagreement on whether or not corpses had any right to keep life-saving organs.

@leander

Now if you don’t mind I think I’ll ignore your typical ridiculous over the top drivel post. Frankly I find it laughable that you accuse me of ignorance after going on and on about the great merits of illegally harvesting body organs. Hilarious!

Naturally you were frothing and trolling to the point where you (again) had to be smacked down by a mod:

@tomndebb

It is not handwaving to note that you are explicitly refusing to read posts by posters you have chosen to ignore. At this point, insisting that I provide information that has already been posted makes you appear to be trolling and I am not going to play your game.

Stop this behavior, as well.

Again:

@tomndebb

Then stop trolling.
“My” claim is that the information has already been provided in the thread. You have explicitly stated that you will ignore some links and citations based on who posted them. Since several of my citations wold be to posts that you have declared that you will ignore, you appear to be doing nothing more than posting for a reaction. You now have it. I have not said that you “are” a troll, only that your last few posts were trolling, which they are.

Just knock it off.
[ /Modding ]

And again:

@tomndebb

@Leander

You asked me for a cite and argument from my claims; I have done so. Now I’m asking the same thing and getting stonewalled.

No, I asked you to show where in the linked stories statements were made that you claimed. You did not provide anything like that, just some vague references to statements that made similar but factually different points.
You then asked me to provide citations for statements that were already in the thread and further demanded that I defend other statements that I have not made.

You then went off on Finn and are now making personal remarks about me that appear to have no purpose but to rile me up. Go back to playing on the snark board or wherever.

Not only did you repeatedly have your head handed to you on factual grounds as you were frothing about Israel, but you were stupid enough that despite the fact that I had posted cites detailing the course of events and investigations for a decade prior to when the American media learned of the story, you refused to read them because I’d posted them. You are nothing but a frothing idiot.

(That, by the way, is how you demonstrate someone’s actual conduct. Not desperately hunting for photos of them)