In other words, you neither know nor are going to make the effort to know if I’m correct or not, but you still think I should take your opinion to heart. Do you understand the problem with that?
Likewise, do you think I should take your opinion seriously when I just gave you three clear-cut examples of people lying about me, but you can’t be bothered to learn the truth about it before forming an opinion?
Again, look at one of the recent posts where she was trolling me (yes, you’ll have to click on a link). Damuri lied and claimed that I’d accused him of anti-Semitism. In simply responding to that, the words “anti-Semitism” and variations on “dishonesty” came up, so SFG trolled me about it. Do you really not understand the fundamental trollishness of trying to shut someone up from defending themselves against slander, when their use of the ‘dreaded words’ is to mention what they were accused of, and to state that they didn’t actually do it?
Do you really not get it?
If I said “Clair has admitted to being a pedophile and running a dog-fighting tournament” and you responded “That’s sick, I don’t support dog-fighting and I’m not a pedophile, and it’s disgusting for you to lie about something as serious as pedophilia or as brutal as dog-fighting. You know damn well that’s not true.” and then someone decided to troll you by posting “sick…dog-fighting…pedophile…disgusting…lie…pedophilia…dog-fighting.” You’d be happy with that? If a whole pack of idiots decided to troll you that way, and then someone else came in and said that they didn’t care if you were right or not, but that you should just shut up, would you value their opinion?
As for “walls of text”, admitting that you can’t or won’t read a few paragraphs is pretty much equivalent to your statement above about how you don’t know whether or not I’m right, but you’d prefer I not talk about it. It lets me know what your opinion is worth on that subject. Same with “repeating the same point” over and over again. As the same accusations are raised over and over, of course I’m going to respond to them with the same facts. The facts, after all, don’t change. Nor do the relevant responses. No matter how many times, for instance, you use variations of “I don’t care”, the response will always be “What I’m saying is true, so it really doesn’t and shouldn’t matter much to me if you get upset by the truth.”
How many of them have a coterie of people who routinely follow them around and lie about them? Many? If you notice, there is a small core of about a dozen posters who can’t freely advance bullshit arguments in GD, because they’ll get called on the facts, so they constantly lie about me and/or troll me when they can. Check, for instance, Red’s barrage of trolling about how I never criticize Israel. As many people aren’t particularly bright, they also leap on a bandwagon when they see the opportunity. Check CarnalK’s idiocy.
Find me, say, five other people who, in the Pit, routinely have people lie about them in the manner that these folks do, with the same predictable, and debunked lies. For instance, there’s the “anybody who criticized Israel is accused of anti-Semitism” lie. Or the “Finn never criticizes Israel” lie (sometimes combined, as Red shows). Find me five other posters who have people not only lying about them like that in the Pit, but in GD as well, where the mods allow it. Find me five other posters who, for instance, engage in behavior like saying I never criticize Israel in threads where I’ve just criticized Israel.
Find five posters like that.
Now, when people admit that they don’t care about the facts, and that they’ll condone people lying about me and trolling me, but gosh darn they just can’t stand it when I point out the facts?
Do you really think I should take them seriously?
Would you, were you in my shoes?
