Good follow-up read after their first firestorm. Obviously a horrid read for the likes of Frothy: The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy
1/3 of the way through. Interesting to say the least…
This is another tactic that Red likes, usually reserved for shitting in GD threads. After being beaten on the facts, he likes to crap out random links along with a one-or-two line “Grrr, Israel bad!” bit. Usually while shitting in GD threads, he’ll plop out links that have nothing, at all, to do with the subject beyond the fact that they include the word “Israel” somewhere in them.
Here we have a link to Amazon.com (seriously) and a throwaway insult.
Because, of course, Red’s racism is pretty indefensible so he’d like to change the subject and rally some gibbering idiots with vomit about “Frothy”. As always this begs the question, which is more aptly characterized as foaming at the mouth, a racist who hates Jews and wants them subjected to special loyalty tests and demonized as traitors if they have their own opinions and politics, or someone who thinks that’s objectionable?
Also interesting to note is that, unless I remember incorrectly, Red also enjoys the term “the Jewish Lobby”, something even W&M dropped because it’s obviously a racist shibboleth, and which is still used by other conspiracy addled cranks.
Ah, my mistake, that was the eternally factually challenged Dick Dastardly who’s babbled about the evils of the “Jewish lobby”
Red, on the other hand, quite aside from retracting his racist spew about Traitor Jews in the US government, he went on to confirm it and JAQ Off about the “other ten names” who, sans evidence, we should look to see if they “show signs of dual-loyalty.”
He’s also the kind of racist who uses the word “Jewish” as a slur.
Dude, you’re possessed by some weird-ass racist obsession. Seriously, get a licensed shrink’s diagnosis and I’ll pay for the meds.
Short term as there’s no real help available for your condition.
Cheers.
Malthus, you know thats not the main reason people find him annoying.
When we debate about Israel, I end up understanding your perspective that you think that by the time 1947 rolled around the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine (or at least the violent struggle for one) was a foregone conclusion so the UN resolution was more of an attempt at damage control than it was the genesis of the state of Israel. I still still think that the UN gave the new state legitimacy that it might not otherwise have had but that’s a position that can change with new information.
When I debate Finn Again, he starts with insult and ends with accusations of racism. The fact that he laces these insults with facts does little to make him more tolerable.
Off the cross, you idiot.
Not only would I draw down Warnings like you draw factual refutations if I personally insulted you in GD, you are using the Big Lie tactic and pretending to be a martyr. Again, you have never provided a cite of me accusing you of racism because you are a liar and made it up.
Hopefully if Malthus does you the undeserved service of treating you as if you have an honest bone in your body, he’ll ask for at least one cite of me accusing you of racism. Should be real easy, since you lie and claim that it happens as some sort of pattern whenever you ‘debate’ with me.
Odd that you can’t provide a single cite for a repeated phenomena.
Go figure.
Oh, and speaking of how you’re a very unintelligent creature, my username is one word, not too.
That’s not been my experience when we’ve debated. I know he has that history with Red Fury, but I don’t see it as a pattern. Can you point to a few instances of his doing this with you? Thanks.
To be fair, Red really does hate (and more importantly, fear) Jews who are presumptuous enough to think that they’re first class citizens who’re allowed to hold their own opinions. If their politics differ from Red’s, they need to be screened for ethnic based treachery and dual loyalty.
Damuri, on the other hand, is just willfully ignorant, stupid and dishonest. Which is why he will provide no cites for his fictional accusation(s) of racism. That’s why he’s gone from a claim that he was “shouted down” to a claim that it was somehow implied, and now back to “accusations of racism”. He’s making it up as he goes along.
One of my favorite **FinnAgain **suggestions to others.
Finn, get off the Star of David, you mean-spirited paranoid.
Not particularly bright, are ya?
Huh, was some Jewish prophet crucified on the Star of David?
Otherwise, is there a reason to bring up Finn’s ethnicity when attacking him?
I don’t remember him referring to his critics being gentiles.
Actually, the only people I can think of who died on a cross (Jesus and Kirk Douglas in Spartacus) were Jewish.
For what it’s worth, I read that as simple stupidity. Sure, it’s clear that Damuri is lying about being called an anti-Semite and petending to be a martyr, but SFP isn’t burdened by an overabundance of intellect. So if Damuri is accused of hopping up on the cross, and the cross is a Christian symbol, then I must be hopping up on some sort of jewish symbol.
Super-secret contribution, spoilered so that people who accuse me of trolling because they have no sense of humor can hang on to that delusion:
I find it hilarous that resident anti-Muslim bigot magellan010651065431 is leaping to the defense of Finn, when **Finn **has called out **RedFury **for doing *the exact same thing ***mag **does, only to Jews instead of Muslims (i.e., questioning their loyalty on the basis of a cultural/religious affiliation).
It’s not worth much, because it was you that (allegedly) read it. Seriously, get off the cross.
It was a JOKE. I understand that people with no sense of humor will act like they didn’t get the reference, or spend a page or two of this thread explaining why using the star of David in my post was wrong. Actually, I don’t know of anyone who has been sacrificed on a SoD. Other than it being a joke, there isn’t any other hidden meaning. So knock yourselves out. Jump up on a cross, SoD, or whatever floats your boat.
True, he doesn’t refer to his critics being gentiles. He calls them anti-semites. Can you be jewish and an anti-semite at the same time? I thought the term for that particular category of person was “self-loathing jew”.
Seriously, **FinnAgain **is all sorts of nuts. Picture a walking can of Planters Party Mix. He is obsessed with jews and anti-semites. Anyone that doesn’t agree with him is an anti-semite. If you don’t believe me, start from the beginning of this thread and read his posts. They are not the posts of a rational human being.
ETA: Or, if reading the whole thread is too much to ask, read** Shot From Guns** summary of posts from FinnAgain. It’s an accurate summary of what you will find in this thread.
[Gomer Pyle]
Kirk Douglas! Kirk Douglas!
[/Gomer Pyle]
Question: Is Kirk Douglas jewish, or is Spartacus jewish (or both)?)
You really need to ask Red or Damuri. They are awesome at playing “Spot the Jew”.
Yes.
Sorry, don’t believe you. Try quoting an example.*
*I am not willing to read anyone’s posts in this thread in their entirety, even at gunpoint.
What’s that?
No cite, perhaps because the only one would be to me calling RedFury an anti-Semite (for the silly reason that he hates and fears Jews who don’t agree with his politics)?
A repetition of the Big Lie that I call everybody who disagrees with me an “anti-Semite”? We’ve even got someone without enough neural activity to kindle a lake of lighter fluid, who’s either lying or has honestly been fooled by SFG’s obvious trolling, and thinks that even when I’m responding to people who claim that I called them an anti-semite and pointing out that’s not true, that it’s an accusation of anti-semitism?
What’re the odds? Who could have foreseen such a thing?
It does, of course, cause me to wonder about the type of person who invents a paranoid fiction and tries to sell it as the truth, while complaining about mental illness in other people, but perhaps some questions are better left unpondered.
And Damuri has yet to provide a single cite of any time I’ve hinted at him being an anti-semite, let alone “shouted him down” as one? You don’t say. Must just be one of those coincidences.
Of course, these “everybody who criticizes Israel is an anti-Semite according to you” and “Israel can do no wrong” lies aren’t just their bread and butter in the Pit, they’re how they train to derail arguments in GD too. Sometimes I wish I could reply “Well, I don’t remember ever calling you an anti-Semite but since you’re trustworthy, it obviously really did happen. Probably in that thread where you talked about how much you love torturing kittens.” That probably wouldn’t go over well though, since stupidity seems to insulate the usual suspects from charges of dishonesty. Ah well, and some folks think that moderation here is biased… in my favor.
FinnAgain,
This is what I am referring to. I don’t hang out in GD to know you very well. But the above is cut out directly from the post you just made. Do you not see how in saying “anti-semite” and “anti-semitism” over and over (you said it 4 times in the first paragraph alone, along with your famous “Big Lie” and “hates and fears jews” just for shits and grins.
Your last paragraph has three more “anti-semites” in there. It’s this “posting” diarrhea that you spew on these boards in a constant stream of repetitive nonsense that makes people blurry-eyed, and is why SFG’s posts are so accurate. You can’t possibly be this ignorant of what people have been trying to tell you.
I slogged through this entire thread before posting because I wanted to see if your posting “style” had changed since the last thread I saw your name. Your “proof” that RedFury (I know less about him than you) is an anti-semite is because out of 10 or so names he picked out of the senate, one happened to be greek (I think). Seriously, you’ve beaten that point into the ground like it refutes his argument (whatever it was). He even yields the point and apologizes, and yet he can’t apologize quickly enough without you crawling up his ass with charges of him being anti-semitic. And you’ve used this example so often, my eyes fog over what the hell you are talking about. Again, read your last post. 7 “anti-semites” (and variations of “anti-semite”) in 2 main paragraphs. How can anyone take you seriously? You have keyboard tourettes.