I’d really rather not do this, but Villa is lying yet again.
I never said I’m personally afraid of a lunatic on an anonymous message board. He knows that. But someone who can fly into a rage by being asked for a link in an online message board, or who constantly rages and spins paranoid fictions about someone denying that he provided a cite, even when that never happened, or who thinks that you can force someone to do something with violence but you can’t be sure that they’re not consenting?
That’s a person with a dangerous, paranoid separation from reality, propensity for groundless rage and a sociopathic lack of understanding for other people’s personhood. And that makes them a danger to themselves and others around them.
As Villa seems to be driven wild by simply being asked for a link, to say nothing of proven wrong or shown to be repeatedly lying, I’m really not going to debate this issues with him as I’m not going to be the cause of him going postal. It’s difficult here as he’s lying about me, again, but hopefully he’ll now move back to older, already debunked lies and I can simply let him rant.
Because as I said, I don’t want to be the last straw that sends him into a rampage.
Villa, don’t sweat it. Frothy is one of the most fucked up posters on this board. He’s projecting quite obviously here - if there is anyone who will go postal it’s him. (The fact that he has so many precise details is funny…and a bit scary.) He doesn’t understand irony, so don’t bother trying to explain it to him.
For years now he’s been a frothy angry lunatic. Just look at his many, many pit threads. Can you imagine him madly banging away at his frickin’ iPhone, cutting and pasting, to make an hysterical wall of text? It’s both funny and sad.
(And if he wants to bring up a 5 yr old thread about you, just ask him about his 5 yr old thread where he cries like a 12 yr old girl when he gets dumped. It’s fucking hilarious.)
Oh, and another hilarious FinnAgain meltdown - a few months back Giraffe had the audacity to challenge our friend Frothy. Giraffe, who is one of this board’s most respected posters (and a former mod who was damn good at his job).
Frothy went after him like a rabid dog. Because that’s what Frothy is. It was somewhat amusing, though, because Frothy actually thought he “won” (like he always does). It’s amazing how delusional the kid is.
Just be happy that you don’t have to deal with him in real life. He’s a sick fuck and I feel very sorry for his wife, if she does in fact exist.
Readers will note that leander isn’t particularly intelligent and lacks basic reading comprehension. The only person to bring up a five year old thread was Spoke, and even then spoke lied about its contents.
Readers will also note what type of creature leander is that he finds messy breakups to be amusing. Truly, stupidity and vileness aren’t incompatible.
Honesty doesn’t serve some people all that well, but this claim also seems to be quickly approaching a Big Lie. IIRC it’s something like five threads over the last eight years. Not, of course, that it would amount to anything but a bandwagon fallacy even if true.
Stupid people generally have trouble understanding simple facts. That someone calls anything longer than a soundbyte a “wall of text” tells you a lot about that person’s intellectual capability. I also specifically stated that I wouldn’t be providing detailed, cut-and-paste posts on without my laptop because it’s annoying. Not that, I’m sure, you can’t find a way to point out that you’ve gotten your face kicked in, but it’s funny because the person doing it used an iPhone to post.
And as honestly doesn’t serve some you well (again), your description is… odd. On one hand we have Villa, who went berserk after being asked for a link on an online forum of all places and thought that it was an instance of dishonesty to be asked for a link, and is still lying about anybody telling him that he didn’t provide any citation. That’s actual paranoid hysteria.
On the other side, I’ve provided well cited, cogent and correct claims that you’d prefer to call hysterical.
Still can’t show how I’m actually wrong about anything, and you’re just reduced to foaming at the mouth over it, eh?
Shocking.
On the edit: of course, Leander is also lying about the content of Giraffe’s trolling. Giraffe repeatedly tried to get me to shut up about correct accusations, claiming that he wasn’t trying to get me to shut up about facts, just that they were “off putting”, and some such. When asked for a way to point out the facts without it being “off putting”, he wasn’t able to. When asked to show how I was wrong, he wasn’t able to. He actually went as far as to troll about how posters lying about me, or posters posting racist idiocy was similar to discussing, with a friend, whether a flavor was simple coffee or amaretto. It was Giraffe’s trolling that inspired SFG’s trolling here, naturally.
Oh Frothy, as usual (and has been pointed out a million times in this thread), you are lying and distorting in full on crazy mode. I can just see you banging away on your iPhone muttering and cursing under your breath.
I’m not going to waste my time refuting your bullshit here, as I’ve done so before in the many, many threads in which you’ve have your ass handed to you over and over again. Let’s just agree that you’re lying again and again.
Sadly, after watching you make a complete fool of yourself over the years it’s clear that as well as being a nutjob you are one of these Internet tough guys who are most certainly a meek little bitch in real life who is a failure at pretty much everything. You spend so much time frothing away here it’s a clear sign your real life is fucked.
So let me ask you this: What do you do for a living Frothy? What are your accomplishments? Because as far as I can tell you’re a loser - here, there and everywhere.
One point of correction: Frothy brought up a 5 yr old thread in the other crazy FinnAgain thread about margin, not villa (my bad). Apparently he did so to point out that margin was crazy. So I guess it’s fair game to bring up Frothy’s insane meltdown from about the same time, where he is dumped in a poly relationship for a lesbian.
Actually, as pointed out, most people here are lying in order to claim I’m lying (the rest, I guess, are simply wrong.) I know you’re full of shit, and you know you’re full of shit, but just for laughs, why don’t you point out, say, a dozen lies I’ve told. How about six? Three?
One?
It’s kind of stupid, but predictable, that you’re actually reduced to lying in order to pretend that I’ve said something that’s not true.
Yeah, you’re lying about that too. Cite one decent factual debunking you’ve ever offered, anywhere, for anything I’ve said.
In point of fact, you do what I already linked to: you bitch, you moan, you call names and talk about how irrational I am… but somehow you never can show how I’m wrong in a debate.
You’re the kind of intellectual cripple whose argument actually is “He’s irrational and can’t make a coherent argument… but I’m the one who can’t eviscerate his claims in Great Debates.”
Just stupid.
And again Leander, you demonstrate that you’re not just a stupid person, you’re a vile piece of shit. Only someone as scummy as you would describe being sad over a messy breakup a “meltdown”, let alone an “insane meltdown”. Only a petty, cruel little idiot would actually take joy in it. And you’re still lying, as I wasn’t “dumped for a lesbian”, but hey, you’re the type of creature who’s reduced to cackling over relationship drama and trying to use it to prove a point about, well, anything other than that you’re a vicious idiot.
Found any of those times you’ve shown how wrong I am about, well, anything?
No?
Funny, that.
Ah, another predictable lie. If it’s not “disagreeing with Finn makes you an anti-Semite in his book!” it’s “disagreeing with Finn makes you a troll in his book!”
It’s comforting that my critics can’t seem to come up with new lies. To say nothing of any actual refutations.
Readers will note, naturally, that the reasons I just gave which show that Giraffe as trolling were not “he disagreed with me”. Leander doesn’t deal too well with the truth and (obviously) has a massive grudge about getting his head handed to him in Great Debates, so this is all he can do.
He is, literally, intellectually crippled.
Of course, as Leander is pretty powerfully stupid, he can’t actually show how I’m wrong about anything. Giraffe actually admitted that he neither knew nor cared whether what I was saying was correct (although he kept implying that it wasn’t), but he wanted me to shut up about it. Just like SFG did before admitting that even if I was right, she too would try to troll me into shutting up.
“I don’t know or care if you’re correct, but I’m going to try to piss you off about it and hopefully I can piss you off enough that you’ll stop posting facts” is pretty much textbook trolling. It’s sad that Giraffe was reduced to trolling like that, he used to be a decent kind of person. Ah well, eh?
Come on, Frothy - Put up or shut up. I’ve posted my educational and career history here for all to see. What’s your success story, little bitch? Or are you just an angry little boy who got his ass kicked in real life and now is an Internet Tough Guy? You claim to be a braniac IRL, so show us your accomplishments.
Put up or shut up.
ETA: Once again, Giraffe is a TROLL!!! “He used to be a decent kind of person”…nice.
Yes, indeed, it is time for you to put up or shut up. To remind you of your lies:
To be fair, we can also discuss any other of the lies you’ve served up here, if you’d prefer.
Or you can keep talking about my relationships and trying to find out about my personal details, if you just want to concede that you not only have nothing, but you’re a walking, talking, blob of feces.
Come on, you little coward*. Tell us what you do for a living. Tell us how successful you are. You claim to be a friggin genius so you must be a very successful person instead of just some crazy person who goes on and on and on and on for page after page and page cursing and name-calling and frothing at the mouth.
Put up or shut up you little tiny bitch.
*Frothy likes to call people cowards for no particular reason. Too funny!
Thank you crazy little boy. You are too scared to reveal anything about yourself and your failure in real life, because then our “dear reader” would know what a real loser you really are.
Sad, pathetic, crazy and dishonest. Keep banging away on that iPhone* like a maniac, and keep fooling yourself.
*Seriously, I cannot for the life of me imagine how someone could spend the time and energy writing pages of text and parsing multiple quotes into a friggin’ iPhone just to make a point on a message board. THAT is fucking nuts.
Not to interrupt you frothing away like a maniac, yet again, but you’re lying, yet again.
How about you show, say, five instances of dishonesty from me? How about two? One?
Didn’t think so.
What do you think it says about you that not only are you reduced to lying in order to claim someone else is lying, but you are freakishly obsessed with an anonymous poster’s sex life, employment and IQ?
You know, now that I think about it I feel quite bad about making fun of FinnAgain.
It’s clear from his many angry crazy posts in this thread, and the several others in the many Pit threads about him where he attacks everyone and anyone, that FinnAgain is a very sick person. In fact, I am seriously concerned that he is mentally unstable, and it is not very decent of me to make fun of that sort of person. He seems so angry and unhinged - he goes on and on for pages and pages shouting insult after insult, attacking all for even the slightest thing.
It’s clear that he is not a stable person and I would hate to be the one who pushes him over the edge. Despite the fact that I am quite confident he is just a meek little pussy-boy in real life who is scared of his own shadow, I do not want to be responsible for any violence he commits against others.
Ah, looks like Frothy has run off like a little coward*
Frothy, are you ever going to tell us what a success story you are, or are you just going to keep banging away on your tiny iPhone keypad with lies and vitriol because your “wife” won’t let you use the one laptop you are able to afford?
To be fair, his picture is on the SDMB phot album and he looks like a normal enough kid, so he’s not trying to hide behind some a veil of total internet anonymity. It just goes to show, you can never tell.
Finn’s problems isn’t his views or his opinions, its his personality and attitude. He assumes the worst motives in anyone who says anything bad about Israel and that turns what could be debates or even enlightenment into an accusatory and adversarial process. Its not helpful to debate. Everyone is better off just putting him on ignore and interacting with impassioned but less odious Israel apologists.
Exactly, which is why when Ibn, DSeid, Malthis, Tamerlane, etc have offered up criticisms I’ve… oh wait. Surprisingly the only people who are taken to task are those who argue dishonestly or from a position of ignorance. And of course ‘the worst’ isn’t assumed. You freaked out, for example, simply because the word “narrative” was used to identify your narrative. It wasn’t until later that you admitted, in your own words, that you automatically take all new information and cram it into an anti-Israel narrative instead of analyzing it honestly, and while you have to struggle against that bigotry you take no personal responsibility and blame me for controlling your mind.
This of course is a lie. As cited in this thread, Damuri came to the subject from a position of ignorance and was determined go argue dishonestly for it. As he’s admitted that he gets all his information on the subject from Wikipedia and cocktail parties, he then demands that people endlessly educate him, in debates while he’s already holding forth, and while he argues dishonestly. Most people understand that you only take a position in a debate once you know WTF you’re talking about and can actually accept corrections.
“Finn! Finnnnn! I’m ignoring you!!! Have you heard yet?!? You’re being ignored, and the person doing is me!! Finn, hey Finn, I’m not paying any attention to you!!!”
“Finn rebuts my claims again and again and again and shows that I’m dishonest and that I’m willfully ignorant. That’s no faaaaaaaair!”
Funny how every factual challenge Damuri offered in this thread turned out to be a lie and he’s only left with “sure I was arguing dishonestly and ignorantly, but Finn wasn’t nice about it!”
So, liar, I am taking it that you have absolutely no evidence of any nature at all that I am prone to violence, or in danger of a violent outburst. Yet you continue with defamatory statements rather than address the arguments.
You’ve repeated the same lies time and time again:
My issue was not with you asking for a link, it was with your deliberately disingenuous editing to remove the fact that I had provided a citation, thereby seeking to represent that I had provided no support for my statement.
You then proceeded to compund the lie by multiple times claiming I had provided no cite. When in fact, as you have finally admitted, I did.
You, with no discernable legal background, make a claim as to the definition of rape that is legally incorrect. I call you on this, and you post to two statutes that, in fact, demonstrate your error. After much blustering, your excuse for your error is that you didn’t “lawyerproof” your supposed legal definition. When shown further your error, you make continued false accusations (a.k.a. lies) and continue with the same defamatory allegations regarding my alleged propensity to violence.
You’re a coward and a liar. Your response when shown wrong is to run away, saying you will no longer engage the person.
