GMs want guys who win football games period. QBs who throw touchdown passes, score points. If this were the 85 Bears, and The Punky QB were protesting this way, NO ONE would give a good god damn.
Well, really, anyone who can make it in the NFL for any period of time is more talented than 98% of people.
Buy they did. They made McMahon stop writing stuff on his headbands. No business likes anyone who brings unnecessary drama to the table. Why you think no one signed Barry Bonds after he left the Giants?
And really stupid, too. He may very well find himself in a position where he needs some protection by the cops. Plus, it’s a smear against all cops, indiscriminately.
Nice 'fro, though!!
McMahon was told by the league to not wear headbands with a sponsor’s name, and he responded by wearing a headband with the commissioner’s name written on it.
My point was about GM’s. They don’t look for guys who sacrifice for their team, they look for players who win games. If McMahon wasn’t winning, he wouldn’t have played with ROZELLE on his headband. But he was winning, and he did wear it.
There is still music without the Ditsy Chicks. The Ditsy Chicks thought they were bigger than their fans. Their fans proved them wrong. Oops.
Athletes can do and say what they please. And the fans, their teammates, and the league can do as they please, in response. Apparently there’s not a goddamn thing you can do about it except to play the race card. Yawn.
It seems you object to people objecting about the behavior of athletes. Or do you only object to objections about black athletes? Doesn’t that make you a racist?
You say “race card” like it’s a bad thing.
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Where did eye say that eye was the one being shouted down?
You didn’t read my question, did you? Is there any chance of your providing a dead-on balls accurate answer to the question eye actually asked?
The Dixie Chicks criticized a Republican President and some of their fans turned on them.
Then those same “patriot” fans turned around and said rather vile and unpatriotic things about Obama.
Not real impressed with the patriotism or character of those fans.
I don’t know why the race of the athlete matters at all. However, the “race card” can be used like a bad thing or a good thing. If you use it as an excuse to cover something that your race had nothing to do with, it is bad. If someones acting towards you in a manner befitting bigotry, then shit, throw the whole deck.
Pretty much everyone agrees now that George Bush was an idiot and a terrible President, and the Dixie Chicks are halfway through a world tour that seems to be doing quite well. Oops.
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He has denied this, arguing that he was aiming his critique only at the rogue cops who undermine public safety and the rights of citizens. You can choose whether or not you find that a compelling argument.
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So what? Sure, it’s probably not the smartest strategy. But the people who spend their lives giving rhetorical blowjobs to the cops, talking about how they put their lives on the line for our safety, etc., etc., etc., often seem similarly undiscriminating in their praise. They are often unwilling to accept that not all police are paragons of virtue. Some of them, including the types of police union reps who have been blasting Kaepernick for the past few days, even spend considerable energy defending police who act like bullies and violent assholes.
Would it be nice if the whole conversation were more nuanced and intelligent? Sure. But if he’s guilty of oversimplification, then he’s certainly not the only one.
While I suppose that it’s possible that he was in a store and saw a pair of socks with pig-police on them and thought “This would be a good way to express disgust at rogue cops that undermine public safety and the rights of citizens”, it doesn’t seem particularly plausible. Just MHO.
Now, because of one back-up quarterback’s decision to sit out an anthem and wear some silly socks, the members of the Santa Clara Police Department are apparently contemplating a boycott of 49er games.
I’m confused. I thought it was us liberals who were supposed to start crying, take our bats and go home if someone said something mean to offend us. I thought that the red-blooded officers of the nation’s police forces would put duty and the safety of tens of thousands of fans first, and would be professional enough to shrug off the protest and just do the job.
I’m not sure exactly how the arrangement between stadiums and police forces work in cases like this. Could the officers refuse to work a game, without violating department policy or guidelines? It’s not quite clear to me how gameday security fits in with regular police duties. I assume it’s a sort of extra duty that cops volunteer for.
At least, that’s the impression i got from a friend who was on my softball team when i lived in Baltimore. He was (is?) a cop in Washington, DC, and also knew cops in Prince George’s County who worked Redskins games. He told me that there were always more cops who wanted stadium duty than there were available places, because of the extra money you could earn, because you got paid to watch the game, and because it was often a pretty easy gig, especially at the baseball games.
SIWs aren’t known for their consistency.
No, no. You liberals run crying to the courts to assuage your distress. And you carry signs and chant slogans. Conservatives exercise the free market and simply choose not to work for objectionable employers. This strikes fear into most liberals, who rely on conservatives to work while the liberals leech off society. See, e.g., “Atlas Shrugged.”
As long as we’re slinging useless stereotypes about, anyway.
Yes. I don’t know the details of the Santa Clara situation, but in general such duty is voluntary moonlighting. As such, officers can refuse to work games. The employer is free to pay private security firms just as they pay off-duty police.
I don’t find that compelling.
So, he’s just as good/bad as the idiots on the other side. Faint praise, that would be.
Sure. I just commented on what I thought was a pretty stupid thing to do, but he can do whatever the hell he wants. And I can say whatever the hell I want.
I’m well aware of the systemic problem that many police forces have in the US wrt the treatment of minorities. I applaud CK’s new-found cause, and it looks like after taking bit of heat, he’s ramping up his support beyond the symbolic. But the pig socks are something I’d expect from a 14-year-old. YMMV.
If the Santa Clara cops decide not to work the games, my first call (if i owned the 49ers) might be to the San Francisco PD. Maybe see if any of those city cops are missing the extra pay they used to get for working football games at Candlestick Park. Of course, having ditched San Francisco for the South Bay, the team might not get much support, and the SF cops might also stay out in solidarity with their Santa Clara colleagues.
To be honest, my bet in this case is that the police union’s threat to not work games won’t come to anything. I like my own faculty union, and i think they do some good work for us as employees, but i don’t agree with everything they do, and i wouldn’t necessarily support every cause they promote. I’m betting that there are plenty of cops in the US who don’t always have much time for some of the loudmouth idiots that seem to populate the leadership positions at some police unions.
And, as you suggest, there’s always private security firms. Hell, those might come cheaper than police, although then you might get something like this at the games.
That may be so, but still, it strikes me as “to serve and protect, as long as our pwecious feewings aren’t hurt.”
And boy howdy, has this been the year of the men in blue getting in a snit because someone’s hurt their pwecious feewings, or what? It seems like anytime anyone says anything that either concurs that yes, some police have committed unjustifiable killings, or that Black Lives Matter might have a point, they have to turn their backs on a mayor, or their union reps have to equate BLM with terrorists, and so forth.
Can someone explain this to me?
We went to a local professional soccer match yesterday (we won!). During the anthem, (replete with military :rolleyes:) after every verse the crowd of 17,000 would wave a red cloth. As in: “Oh, say can you see (wave), by the dawn’s early light (wave)”. Then during the last verse they whirled the cloths over their heads throughout.
I don’t get it. And it would seem that treating the anthem in this manner is at least on a par with whatshisname sitting, only without any meaning whatsoever.
Also, I pit the idiot in civilian clothes who was saluting.
Interesting note: “whatshisname” raises zero issues with spellcheck.