RexDart said, "Guess what, somebody on the danged internet saying he/she doesn’t approve morally of homosexuality will not affect your personal life one dang bit. Not at all. Nor would 1,000 people…nor would 1,000,000 people…nor would 10,000,000 people. "
You are so wrong. Attitudes on the Internet affect attitudes in real life. Maybe moreso than ever before. The number of people who are reached is a thousand times the number that would be reached at a KKK rally or similar hate event. The attitudes you see here are the same ones walking around in real life. Just because you can’t be physically beaten on the internet doesn’t mean you’re immune to the emotional abuse.
I wholeheartedly disagree with the OP. I will point you to this thread for more of an education. I will also sing another verse of “You’ve Got To Be Carefully Taught” from South Pacific:
Words do, indeed, hurt.
Oh, and Ace? You really need to learn when to shut the fuck up.
Hmm, legalese usually makes me cross-eyed, and I didn’t read the rest of the charter, but the paragraph you posted seemed to make a lot of sense to me. Why SHOULD a homosexual receive special treatment under the law? All it seemed to say to me was that they would make no law that specifically benefitted a homosexual.
I think if the same were true for skin color et. al. things would be much better. If a law doesn’t apply to every single person it needs to be changed. That’s my opinion. Therefore if you are going to allow marriage, EVERYONE should be allowed to get married, if you are going to make it illegal to kill people it should be the same punishment whether you kill someone for crack of because they are a homosexual.
I think that Cincinatti has it right, if of course I read that right.
So in lieu of the right to marry, mswas, you have no problem with a gay person’s life partner being denied access to them while they are in the hospital? (After all, “next of kin” applies to everyone.) Because until equal marriage laws are passed (and that’s still quite a ways off), this is just one small example of the overt discrimination that the gay community faces every single day.
I’m convinced that a great many of them don’t care how it’s received. They only care that they deliver it, thereby earning a few more Piety Points[sup]TM[/sup].
Joe Cool, I see in another threads that you andJersey Diamond are getting married. Congratualtions, I hope you’ll be very happy.
Cajun Man and Dr. Matrix have been together, what, 20-some years now? And they are not allowed to get married, because their relationship “doesn’t count.” I’m just sayin’, there still are things that need to be accomplished before we can just stop complaining.
Ace, just in case you missed it, here is my response to the portion of the OP you quoted:
“Well, thanks for letting me know. I guess I can just stop caring that the people who don’t approve of my sexuality online also don’t approve of it in real life, and rest assured that their beliefs are not hurting anyone in person. Because, after all, that’s the important thing, right? Forget the community I’ve grown to call a home in the past two+ years. It’s just the internet. It’s not like I have any feelings invested in this place:rolleyes:”
In other words, the people who hate and judge and condemn and otherwise make life unpleasant for non-hets on this board probably do so in real life. And for those people it can’t always be a matter of going where there isn’t hate. And they shouldn’t have to stop going to the doctor or the barber or the theater, or the grocery store for cryin’ out loud, just because they want to avoid the kind of bigotry that is still very much present in this country. I deal with it on a daily basis at school. And I’m not even walking about “flaunting my [prefix]sexuality”.
And 'Uigi, I have a suggestion that might make everyone happier:
I am not American yet I love an American citizen and have been with her for over 3 years yet I cannot enter your country as a spouse/partner. I am lucky my field of employment is terribly specialised and I have networks there that will provide me with full time employment however my understanding of the Visa situation is that should I lose that job for any reason I have 10 days to leave the country. That is no basis for a life together.
I could marry the first male American tourist I see and get in as a spouse but instead I have to jump hoops and live in fear of funding crises in my field or getting sick or be illegal and not contribute via taxation or voting or do anything that may bring me to notice.
Tell me again I should shut up when equality is realised, not before.
Note: My country Australia doesn’t make it all that easy but it is possible to bring same-sex partners here openly as partners provided they have co-habitated for 12 months and have them granted permanent resident status. We too have a way to go, just not as far.