Hillary better run away from having anyone having such a politically toxic past. Switching between America’s two major parties is electoral poison, explaining why Ronald Reagan got so few votes :smack:
How about Bernie Sanders, who was a member of the Socialist Workers Party until he was 39? True, half our voters say they wouldn’t vote for a socialist. But, no problem there. All we need to do is wait until the GOP starts explaining how the Socialist Workers Party is fairly described as Communist. That would sound so much better.
More seriously, thank you for reminding me of another reason – her GOP past – that Warren would be a great running mate. No one else could combine energizing the Democratic base while reassuring swing voters that this is a moderate ticket.
Plus we really do need a credible bankruptcy expert explaining the difference been middle class personal bankruptcies and Trump’s four corporate bankruptcies caused by being a bad economic manager.
why is it that Liberals can talk all day about ‘poor rural/working class white people’ who vote against their best interests when they vote Republican but when a bunch of Southern blacks vote for the corporate Wall Streeter, the Glass Steagal, NAFTA, Keystone pipeline/ Iraq Invation candidate it’s not the same?
those poor minorities are voting for the 1993 version of Hillary.
Wasn’t Bernie in the SWP when they were* Trotskyist,* as in before they left the Fourth International in the 1980’s and oriented more strongly to Cuba?
And Hillary is a Bourbon Democrat, anyway. :rolleyes:
Of course, once you’re a Democrat, we already know you’re a baby-killin’, pot-brownie-bakin’, pinko race-mixer, it’s all arcane variations of weird to the real Americans who are voting for [del]Jeb[/del] [del]Rand Paul[/del]–staying home in protest!
So long as Hillary doesn’t make the damn fool mistake of putting him on her ticket, there will be no need for us to become expert in the maddeningly complex SWP factional history.
Sanders “served as an elector” for the SWP in 1980–obviously a very perfunctory kind of ceremonial appointment. Was he really “in” that party otherwise? I find him mainly identified with the Liberty Union Party.
It’s patronizing to say that black minorities don’t know what they are voting for. That’s when white guys suck so hard. If Trump knows whatever the hell he stands for besides Trump please do let us in on it.
Warren is a very solid senator. However, my point was directed at the Bernie apologists who insist that Clinton isn’t any damn good because she was a republican as a teenager. And yet Warren the madonna of the socialist movement is really a newbie. Certainly Clinton will look at everyone. But if she bags and tags this primary earlier than later, her populism is about assisting the poorest black and latino communities, not necessarily how there’s a winding arrow to Wall St as the cause of all the world’s problems. I think she might be shortlisting those who would be representative of the communities that are embracing her in droves.
OK, I think what we have here is a GOP operative trying to drive down Democratic turnout in November. Let’s just stop feeding her and hope she goes away.
Personally I’d, like both Trump and Sanders to run as independents when they both have admitted they have been kicked to the curb by their respective parties.
In the US system, a President can achieve almost nothing without a congressional delegation. A third party would make sense only if it first had a substantial presence in the senate and house of representatives before making a serious presidential bid. That’s what the Republicans did when they started out.
Trump, and even more Cruz, are so unpopular among GOP members of congress that should one of them win as GOP nominees, they would fail in the same way as a third party candidate.
Not a single one of Cruz’s currently serving fellow senators has endorsed him, even though he’s ahead of Rubio, in the great majority of polls, for the past three months. So Cruz has already been kicked to the curb. As for Trump and GOP, the operative phrase I keep reading is “hostile takeover.” If he sends his terrific, but otherwise secret, health care plan to a GOP-controlled congress, it would be just as DOA as if it came from an independent.
Love that, Bucky! And I’ve been pretty hard on Bernie, but I want to say that I was really impressed by what he said Sunday about Saudi Arabia. So rare to hear from a politician of any stripe.
If I didn’t live in a democratic state, of course I would vote for Hillary over Trump, but I would rather write in Bernie’s name or perhaps vote for a third party.
I happen to love Bernie, but I also don’t trust Hillary. I think she’s an amazing politician, and that’s what’s allowed her to get the many homosexuals and African Americans behind her… even though she was late with supporting Gay Marriage, (In my OPINION… and she claims her support for traditional marriage back in the day was not political - so it’s not as if people can blame it on ‘the times’,) and the whole “Super Predator” thing.
She was also for the Iraq war.
I mean… she was* involveld *in many scandles which people seem to think are all about the right smearing her name. Which may or may not be true, but I just don’t think she’s squeaky clean, like some people seem to think she is.
She seems too ‘center-left’ for my taste, as well as Obama.
I’ve been accused of being critical of her because she’s a woman. I think Bill is just as shady. I would be just as critical of him if he were somehow running. Frankly, I don’t see why ANYONE would WANT to back this horse unless they had to.
But that’s fine… She’s clearly better than a child like Trump.
