Safed - committed by retreating Mamluk troops that accused the Jews of collusion, not Ottoman troops.
Hebron was probably committed by Ottoman troops, but it is somewhat obfuscated. That attack was said to be committed by Turkish troops led by one Murad Bey, the “Sultan’s man” in Jerusalem. He was likely Ottoman, because the Ottomans had taken Jerusalem by 1516. However the problem is that we know that fighting was still going on, Mamluk troops had committed other retaliatory massacres of Jews (see Safed), the Mamluks were also led by a Sultan, they were also mostly Turkic and Murad Bey was a name common among the Mamluks.
If they were Ottoman troops (entirely likely), we can be pretty sure this was a local commander acting without orders to loot a vulnerable community. Selim I was nicknamed the Grim for good reason, but he was not particularly hostile to Jews per se. His personal physician was Jewish, he permitted construction of synagogues and he continued his father’s policies of welcoming Sephardic refugees (as did his son Suleiman afterwards).
While one can speak of Jewish massacres in the Ottoman empire, they were not usually engendered by Ottoman authorities per se. Rather they tended to be episodes of mob violence, that accelerated in the 19th century as the state began to totter and more virulent antisemitism began to be imported from Europe (usually starting with the poor Christian underclass, then spreading to the poor Muslim, particularly Arab underclasses). The rise of ethnic nationalism, another European import, also served to ratchet up tensions and eroded the Ottoman state’s previously cosmopolitan nature.
If it was the fault of Britain, it was for allowing/encouraging the creation of a Jewish state in Israel. There was no way that was going to happen without massive opposition from Arabs generally and Palestinians in particular.
And there was little conflict under the Ottoman empire because Jews (and Christians) were resigned to being second class citizens. Conflict tends to break out when empires weaken or fall.
This kind of reply is why I think you are a moron. It’s completely nonsensical and not at all relevant to what I had posted. You are in the category of people I call “casually evil.” You don’t really think about things too much, but it doesn’t stop you from having hateful, repugnant views. You casually call for the slaughter of people and you never stop to think about how it all ends.
It’s 2025, Whack-a-Mole. “Genocide” doesn’t mean “intentionally killing people of a certain group in order to wipe them out” anymore, now it just means “thing I don’t like”.
I’m sure Israel has many spies inside Iran. Is there any indication whatsoever that the people they’re executing have anything to do with those spies, as opposed to being random people the regime feels like executing?
…I’ve already defined it for you but I’ll do it again for good measure.
Here is the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, that defines what a genocide is.
Here is the South African case that argued that what Israel is doing is genocide, presented in December 2023:
Here is the additional evidence in a public dossier submitted in February 2025:
Here are the provisional measures ordered by the International Court of Justice to:
Those measures were:
The important thing to note is that Israel did not comply with any of the provisional measures that were basically a warning shot: “what you are doing appears to be genocide, just stop doing it already.”
But they ignored every single one. In fact: things are orders of magnitude worse than when the provisional measures were ordered.
Both Netanyahu and Gallant have had arrest warrants issued by the International Criminal Court for:
A dictionary definition isn’t going to cover this. Nor does imagining that genocide means something like “kill them all.” That isn’t what the genocide convention states.
So I’ve provided the actual definition of genocide for you. I’ve provided dossiers of evidence that supports the case for genocide, I’ve provided you with the provisional measures which were ordered by the International Court of Justice to prevent genocide that were ignored by Israel, I’ve provided you with the details of the arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant which were issued by the International Criminal Court.
In addition to that earlier in the thread I cited Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, a number of genocide scholars, the UN Special Committee, all of whom have independently examined the evidence and issued either reports or statements that all reach the same conclusion: Israel are committing genocide in Gaza.
I haven’t heard from you a single word in rebuttal. “Find a dictionary” doesn’t cut it.