Game of Thrones 6.02 "Home" 5/1/16 [Show discussion]

I don’t see an inconsistency there. It is misleading, but accurate. After training, she will no longer want to go after anyone. And she’s free to go after all none of them.

Yeah, that whole thing definitely appears inconsistent and poorly thought out. I’m holding out hope that it can still be saved by a reveal we haven’t thought of yet.

Thanks. I remembered the scene but not what he said.
No sympathy for Roose, but I do wonder why the maester and others would do Ramsay’s bidding. The maester could pretty easily dispatch a “killed his dad/stop/send an army/stop/had dogs tear up a baby/stop/he can’t hold the north” ravengram and tell Ramsay it was “Roose got poisoned”. I can’t imagine Ramsay has THAT much loyalty from his men unless he offers them one hell of a dental plan or something.

Episode 7 has been out both theatrically and on DVD/Blue ray ample enough time for you to have seen it already if you were really interested, and your angry for someone spoiling it for you. It’s a miracle you haven’t heard the fan speculation on Jon’s mother yet. I’d stay out of GoT threads for a few weeks if I were you because that is likely to be spoiled for you as well. You shouldn’t have to wait long. With what I’ve seen from season 6, I strongly suspect they’re setting up the big reveal soon.

After watching that scene a second time, I think Ramsay was just implying that they only needed to win over the big families, not that they already had.

Would you want to be the first person to tell Ramsay no?

I think it is like the face-shifters from the Dune series. The faces are models for them to use.

Maybe for a beginner faceless man like Arya, she has to have the actual face from the big creepy room. For an expert, they’ve learned it well enough that they don’t need the face. Or something.

The degree to which GoT is unpredictable is IMO very much exaggerated. In five seasons, I have yet to see a true narrative blind alley, nor a pointless death of a major character (as surprising as they might have been). We may not see how the plotline will be carried on immediately, but it eventually becomes clear. If what happened were truly random, it would be very poor writing, and the show would not be as popular as it is. GoT kills off more characters in more unexpected ways than more conventional tales, but it still obeys basic dramatic rules.

Most characters, even important and well-liked ones, are expendable, and could go at almost any time. However, there is a small handful, about five or six, whose death would render their individual plotlines pointless. They may go at some point, but it won’t happen until their plotline has reached some resolution or connection with the rest of the plot.

I’m sure that Arya, being the smartest character on this show by far, will let us in on her plans when she is good and ready.

Interesting Buzzfeed article on how Bran’s vision closely paralles the first scene of Winterfell in season 1.

I especially liked how the sisters upstage the boys both times. And the words spoken by Jon to Olly were the same as was said by Ned to Benjen. Although, how would Jon have known?

Well besides the requirement for maesters to set aside their preferred loyalties to serve the master of the castle, there is the small matter of doublecrossing someone that is notorious for torturing people for months on end. Same goes for his men. Maybe all of them would prefer him gone but who wants to be first to risk their neck…and skin…and other body parts.

It makes me wonder how badly that maester had to have screwed up to have be given that plum assignment by the Guild!

Benjen or Ned could have said the same thing when training Jon (and Robb).

Err, no. She’s just a kid, and a bit of an angsty one at that (not that she doesn’t have good reason to be). But that distinction definitely goes to Tyrion. His dad and sister would be pretty high on the list too, as is Varys.

(cough) (Littlefinger) (cough)

Cersei is not nearly as smart as Tyrion or Tywin, even if she thinks she is.

That makes sense. I’m about to watch it a second time myself and will pay a bit closer attention.

Those sons didn’t die.

I don’t think it’s clear whether they become White Walkers, which are alive, or die and become wights. The eyes of Craster’s last son turned blue, but that’s a characteristic of both White Walkers and wights.

Seems super inefficient to travel for hundreds of miles to create white baby. Which also seems useless.

I think that scene was supposed to be unambiguous that the Night’s King was creating another white walker.

Yeah, I’d agree with that. She’s certainly not a dummy though.

Forgot about old 'finger, but yeah he’d be on there as well.