I did mention in a later post that Varys was plotting to restore the Targayens even before he knew anything about Dany. However, as you mention Varys actions in the first few seasons are confusing and inconsistent with regard to his motivations.
However it was shown earlier, in recent seasons Varys actions have been depicted as having the good of the realm as their basis. Why else would he assist Tyrion in escaping? The writers have been pretty consistent in establishing Varys as a “good guy” now (to the extent anybody is a good guy on the show) for several years. Whatever his motivation, Varys doesn’t seem to be acting purely in his own self interest.
Yeah, but that’s still just Littlefinger’s own self interest. He has zero interest in what Sansa actually wants. Littlefinger’s actions are entirely selfish. If he did anything for Catelyn, or does anything for Sansa, it’s only to ingratiate himself with them.
He did, but Walder reneged and imprisoned him again. It would appear that Jaime has gone back to his oathbreaking ways. Maybe he made Walder promise to send Edmure to Casterly Rock, but he should have known Walder couldn’t be trusted.
He was given a Knighthood and Harrenhall. He also has that piece of shit rocky land he was born on. Plus more money than the Lannisters probably have at the moment and control of the Robin’s lands and Tully army. Plus, Robin-- ugh! If that’s her best choice maybe she should wait for Tyrion to come back and work on their marriage.
Actually, I hope we do see Tyrion and Sansa meet up again and Sansa apologizes to him and tells him he was the best husband she ever had.
Splitting a “final season” is pretty sleazy, in my opinion. We the audience end up getting what for all intents and purposes appears to be two shortened seasons, but it only counts as a single season in terms of contracts. Thus, no raises or renegotiations for the actors because it’s all “one season,” and their contracts are structured by seasons. Scummy all around, if you ask me.
Aside from the contract issues, calling them “split seasons” instead of two separate short seasons makes some sense in the case of programs like Breaking Bad, Mad Men, and The Sopranos because each season has its own self-contained story arcs. In the case of Game of Thrones, based on a book series, the overall story has its own arc. Splitting it into “seasons” is more arbitrary, since the seasons don’t even correspond to single books in the series.
I know, I repeat myself (and I won’t do it again, promised): What is this “good”? Is this good worth another civil war? Is it worth a Dothraki horde among helpless townsfolk and peasants? Is it worth using WMDs?
In other words: Can this “good” still be called good if you plan to do so much evil?
However, it could very well be that we are supposed to swallow a loaded sentence like “I do this for the good of the realm” and don’t question it. I’d never believe it plausible in the books - Martin’s stance should be known - but, yeah, it might be true in the show.
I don’t think this is true; he wants to be loved by her. And this is only relevant if it’s not just you in your own universe.
Do you think this was done on purpose or did the writer not consider the implication?
We’ll see, but at least over the last few seasons Varys actions appear to be consistent with what he believes to be the good of the realm. Of course, setting a horde of Dothraki and Ironborn loose on the countryside is likely to have unintended consequences.
That may be the case, but Littlefinger’s love is purely selfish. He doesn’t care about Sansa’s happiness if she doesn’t love him. If he’s convinced she never will, he’ll be happy to destroy her.
There’s been so much sloppy writing it’s hard to say, since it was just a throwaway line by Walder and we don’t know exactly what happened. But the fact remains that Jaime’s promise to Edmure wasn’t kept.
Why did no one tell me (in the last 5 minutes, as I’m not going back and reading the past few threads) that Lady Mormont is a RAMSEY? (Bella Ramsey, to be precise)
He wasted it on big tournaments and festivals. Your POV is akin to saying the government should spent millions+ on having the Olympics because it will help the country… when, we’ve seen it does not.
What was the point of the conversation between Jaime and Walder Frey, in which Jaime basically told off Walder Frey for not personally engaging in combat?
Giving him shit because Walder disgusts him even though he’s an ally. The most respected leaders in Westeros are those who have shown prowess as warriors, especially in personal combat.
I read somewhere (maybe here or on Twitter) that Littlefinger (with regard to Sansa) is like Snape if Lily Potter had had a girl. He doesn’t love her. He wants a connection through her to Cat whom he loves. I think there’s some truth to that.
I should add-- If Sansa (or Jon, for that matter) knew how Littlefinger was instrumental in getting Ned killed back in season 1, they wouldn’t be so cozy with him. In fact, that was exactly what I thought of when he gave Sansa that look during the Kingadahill! chant. ‘Got rid of Ned to get to Cat, I’ll get rid of Jon to get to Sansa.’
It’s not an unintended consequence for the queens he supports.
Ah, now I see what you mean: caritas versus cupiditas. This point of view has merits.
A lot of money must have flown elsewhere - there had been a civil war, after all, and this usually means destruction of strongholds, bridges and other infrastructure, burned mills and burned fields and other important economic assets and on and on and on.
And though it’s likely that most of the money was coming from other coffers, it was in the best interest of the crown to help out - and the peace that Jon Arryn achieved is hard to imagine if the crown had ignored the needs of struggling Houses.
The idea that *everything *went to tournaments and festivals is ridiculous. It was certainly a drain on the spendable money - but since creditors were still willing to lend money, it’s not a desaster for the economy; it’s more likely helping it.
The difference to Olympics is that the immensely expensive and later usually underutilized infrastructure is such a drain, not the event itself. You compare apples and oranges.
Hold on, time out: if the Wall has magic juju powers such that the White Walkers can’t pass – what is everyone so worried about?
Winter is here: how can they tell? As far as we know, it’s been snowing at Winterfell for six seasons now.
The best* part of the entire episode cleared up something that’s been bothering me since Season 1. Why do the opening credits include that effect of an lens passing over the map (like an optometrist’s “which is better…1 or 2?”) when there are no optics in this universe? But then we see the maester in the Citadel wearing a medieval pair of glasses.
The White Walkers haven’t been seen for thousands of years, and no one knows very much about them after all that time. All we’ve been told is that Benjen, as a sort-of-dead man, can’t pass. It’s not established that the White Walkers can’t, who may not actually dead.
In fact, at least two wights passed through The Wall with no evident problems: the two apparently dead Night’s Watch, one of whom attacked Mormont. Sam remarked that they were not as decayed as they should have been, which implies that they were already wights when they were carried through the Wall.
(Bella Ramsey, to be precise)
