Well, remember a few episodes back when Sandor looks into the fire, and Thoros asks him what he sees? He rambles a bit then says he sees “a mountain”. It’s clearly fucking confirmed!!
Reminder that Sansa was never married to Joffrey. She was betrothed to him, though.
The travel details have become hopelessly ignored in the show, but Winterfell to King’s Landing (near Dragonstone) is something like 1500 miles. Which is a ~60 day trip if you’re on horseback, take the main road, the weather is nice, and you’re not carrying too much. And another 650 miles from Winterfell to Castle Black, and even farther to Eastwatch-by-the-Sea.
TL;DR: Going by land is a serious time sink. It will take Jon ~3 months at best to get to the Wall by land, even if he doesn’t stop by Winterfell on the way.
While going directly to the wall by sea, even assuming the distance is the same (it should be significantly shorter, going from an island to the coast), would take from 10 days to 2 weeks, depending on the weather and assuming they sailed night and day. So, the land route adds a lot more than a week.
References:
Distances in Westeros (Warning, Google doc)
Ancient travel times
Well, they were on the other side of a surprisingly wide and deep river. That part of it is actually the most believable part - if you can accept them getting there, then they’re safe. Dothraki ride, they do not row boats or swim.
And as a Valyrian steel sword maker, based on the old parchment describing the process that Samwell just so happen to have stolen from the great library.
And boy toy, as appropriate by age, inclination, and culture. :eek:
I find it interesting that Pod is still wearing his red Lannister livery. But I guess it’s hard to come by a new set.
Quite right. The chests had a “chunky” rattle to them, as well. Mind, they might have been full of loose socket sets and cans of tuna. Or SPAM.
Also, not sure what is a spoiler here, so I will tag it–this is a reference to two points in the official HBO trailer for next week’s show, and what I think I saw:
[spoiler] in the official HBO trailer, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stw6INIS570 , at the :32 and :45 second mark, look at the weapons Tormund and The Hound are wielding.
And yes, that sounds like a dick joke. [/spoiler]
For who dies, I would guess Beric – he’s had a long life and several deaths, and a perma-death while fighting with a flaming sword defending the others would be an excellent end for him. Probably not Gendry – why bring him back just to kill him? Probably not Sandor, who still has to fight the Mountain. Maybe Thoros, who might not serve any other purpose. Maybe Jorah, who had his emotional reunion with Dany, and dying heroically beyond the wall, just like his father, would be fitting. Certainly not Jon. Maybe Tormund, but I think he still has to meet Brienne again.
I think it is a safe assumption that Bronn wasn’t using poison spears against Drogon.
Speaking of Bronn, Cersei did give Jaime an order to punish him…
I did notice a theme of characters questioning their leaders’ actions. Tyrion and Varys were both critical of Dany, Tyrion was especially vocal about it. Jaime also seemed troubled with Cersei’s order. And Arya was giving Sansa quite a bit of a headache in Sansa/Ned/Cat’s chambers.
I don’t disagree really though I know others won’t see it that way. I’m against capital punishment but have no problems with people killing themselves which they clearly did.
A pundit on YouTube theorized that the worst scene ever on GoT-- Bronn dragging Jaime out of the lake-- was because they had a shot of Jaime sinking into the deep that was attached to another battle scene with a bunch of Lannisters struggling to get out of their armor that was removed from the shooting script and fell in love with it. Without that shot everything makes more sense. There’s no bottomless lake, no drowned Jaime.
Since Joss Whedon didn’t write the next episode, I’m pretty sure Gendry makes it out alive. Same for Jon and the Hound. Everybody else - dead wight walking. You know, for maximum angst, that Brielle will have to face off against zombie Tormund next season.
But this is the stupidest plan I’ve ever seen. IOW, a typical Jon plan. Has the man ever made a right decision? Based on what we’ve seen, I’d have fragged his ass, too.
Unlike GOT viewers, Sam hasn’t been obsessing with theories about Jon’s parentage for the last several years. Like almost everyone else in Westeros, he has no reason to question the “fact” that Jon is Ned’s bastard, and no reason to even suspect that the annulment has anything to do with Jon.
I consider the shot of Jamie sinking at the end of the last episode to be a bit of artistic license. He’s just falling into a normal river, not into a bottomless hole. It’s an emotional depiction, not a literal one. Again, we aren’t watching a documentary. If Jamie and Bronn resurfaced a bit downstream, then by definition it’s the kind of river in which you can fall and then resurface a bit downstream.
Hmm, that’s an interesting way of looking at it. I like it.
It would’ve made a lot more sense if Jaime (& Bronn) had been captured by Daenerys’s forces, had his meeting with Tyrion, and then was released to take the armistice offer back to Cersei. Of course then Davos sneaking into King’s Lander to retrieve Gendry would’ve been it’s own subplot.
Jon’s not now and unless Daenerys dies will probably never be in a position to press his “rightful claim” to the Iron Throne. In fact openly acknowledging his true parenthood would probably undercut his support in the North. And Daenerys does end up sitting on the Iron Throne it’ll be by right of conquest, not because she’s last legitimate Targaryen.
In Cersei’s defence Westeros’s previous royal family openly practiced sibling incest for generations, but yes she’s delusional about this (& many other things). And while she has as much intention of actually marrying Euron as he does of not killing her & seizing her throne he’s not done being useful to her yet so she needs to keep stringing him alone.
Cersei’s only in her mid-40s; she could still plausibly have gotten pregnant with any magic or mad science by Qyburn. I’m not convinced she really his pregnant though; Qyburn could’ve misdiagnosed a tumor or Cersei could just be faking to manipulate Jaimie (one of my coworkers is convinced of this).
And that sister is now Lady of Horn Hill. Whoever she maries become Lord of Horn Hill jure uxoris, and that’s not just speculation either. It was established on the show when Jaimie tried to marry Bronn off to an heiress (well technically his bride’s spinster sister was the heiress) he’d acquire her title & castle.
I think the maesters can diagnose pregnancy at least as well as a premodern doctor or midwife, but I doubt Wolkan could actually tell the sex of the baby. He made an observation based on how she was carrying (which means nothing) that knew would be pleasing to his lord, had a 50% of getting right, and could easily back down from if he turned out wrong.
Granted this is probably the first time in history those titles have been held by separate people.
Also this time she would’ve been on a closed set (not outside with hundreds of extras) and her emotional performance wasn’t nearly has complex.
That makes a lot of sense.
A year ago, if someone here had said that Season 7 Episode 4 would feature a scene with The Hound, Gendry, Jon Snow and Jorah Mormont you’d ask for some of what they’re smoking.
Tormund Giantsbane got all the best lines in a few minutes of screen time. “Which queen…? The one with the dragons or the one who fucks her brother?”
It’s notable that most of the Suicide Squad are walking dead men. They have either been actually dead or else have been doomed at some point.
Jon and Beric have actually been dead, Beric several times.
The Hound was left for dead and was believed so for several seasons.
Gendry has been marked for death on two separate occasions.
Jorah had a supposedly incurable and fatal disease. He still is under sentence of death in Westeros for slaving.
Thoros, Beric, and the Hound have been marked for death by Arya, though this is probably not still operative for them.
Good points, all. That only leaves Tormund…
Do wights have the intelligence to use a bow and arrow? They didn’t use any at Hardhome.