Dear Og, the subtlety of Peter Dinklage. It’s just incredible. I’ve watched the scene three times now, and I still can’t put my finger on how he did it. But somehow, with the twitch of a hair or the pose of his hand on the wine glass, he some way made it clear before he said it, that his next line would be “What does it say?”
Masterful.
So Gilly mentioned something about Rhaegar, (Ragger according to Closed Captions) an annulment and re-marry at the same time in a secret ceremony in Dorne? Any reason for this?
I was so glad that they didn’t show Gendry in the previously on montage, it made the reveal so much more effective.
In the first season people were criticizing Emilia Clarke’s acting, yet she communicating her lust for Jon Snow the whole episode without saying a word, she was looking at him like a starving man at a pork chop.
I don’t know how big the news is that Jon is not a bastard is, it may be important later.
Annulment of Elle (Martell) and remarriage to Lyana (Stark) means Jon, the child of Rheagar and the later (basically confirmed last season) is the legitimate Targaryen heir to the Throne and not merely Rheagar’s bastard.
It means that Jon’s parents were married. Dany is a littler older so her claim to the throne is still better than his. I don’t know if having her parent’s marriage annulled makes Dany a bastard.
… Jon is the son to the heir (Rheagar), making him the heir. He comes before Dany, Rheagar’s younger sister, in the line of succession.
It’s awfully nice of all those high level fighters and Rangers (and one cleric, I guess) to take Expert 3/Fighter 1 Gendry with them. He should clean up on XP, assuming he survives, anyway.
He’d come before her in any case simply for being male.
And very smart of the rogue to stay behind while the party goes off to fight undead, which are immune to sneak attacks.
[spoiler]“Robb, I write to you with a heavy heart. Our good king Robert is dead, killed from wounds he took in a boar hunt. Father has been charged with treason. He conspired with Robert’s brothers against my beloved Joffrey and tried to steal his throne. The Lannisters are treating me very well and provide me with every comfort. I beg you: come to King’s Landing, swear fealty to King Joffrey and prevent any strife between the great houses of Lannister and Stark.”
It was the letter Cersei forced Sansa to write.[/spoiler]
Well Daenerys really needs to refrain from using the dragons to execute people; using them as weapons of war is once thing, but executing highborn traitors like that instead of the traditional beheading is horrible PR.
Cersei’s pregnant, or least she & Qyburn think she is. It could a phantom pregnancy; though I’m inclined to believe it’s real. Euron won’t be too happy though; he might not give a damn about her sleeping with Jaimie, but this seriously messes with his plan to marry her and then seize the throne.
Not really. Raeger was Aerys II’s eldest son born in wedlock; once he died Jon (or whatever is birth name is) took Raeger’s place on the succession; ahead of Viserys & Daenerys. Granted while this would be a severe blow to Daenerys’s ego it doesn’t really change much; might matters more than right. She’s in a much better position to actually take & keep the Iron Throne than Jon will ever be. It does drive them ever closer to a marriage of state. It’d be the perfect arrangement; on paper they can be co-sovereigns (ala William & Mary), in practice she stays in the South and Jon returns to the North (at least assuming the Northern lords still accept him when he’s only a Stark on his mother’s side). Also one hopes Sam bothered to take that particular scroll with him; he wasn’t really paying much attention to what Gily was saying.
I dunno. He learned a thing or two in that cave…
The scene in the cell was great. “You’re the Hound”, “You’re Mormont”, “You’re Gendry”, “You’re Thoros”. Can we all just get along? 
Bronn and Jaime just magically get away by floating far away from the scene? After everyone saw them fall into the water right next to Daenerys and Tyrion?
Awful, mind-numbingly bad start to the episode.
They weren’t her parents. She’s Jon’s Aunt, not his sister.
Besides, Dany marries Jorah. Jon marries Arya, unless she marries Gendry.
It is known.
I feel so bad for Jaime. I’m sure he’d happily accept the deal he offered Edmure - return to Casterly Rock and live a life of peace with his sister/wife and child. But she’ll never settle for that now, even though it was once her only wish. It’s a crying shame.
Sam’s rant was truly epic. And her response? “Steps.”
Gave it up twice actually. Maesters renounce all claims to wives, lands and titles as well. But hey, if Jon can ignore those vows, why not Sam? Martin Luther was a priest who married a nun, so it isn’t like there’s no historical precedent. Rules are meant to be broken.
It’s a big reveal. Jon is the rightful Targaryen heir to the Iron Throne as we all suspected. I still think all the R+L=J stuff is a red herring. Not that it isn’t true, just that it doesn’t matter. Whoever ends up on the throne will take it by strength of force, not by convincing anyone of their “rights”. Still, that’s going to be a hell of a pill for Danaerys to swallow.
This bothered me too. By all rights Jaime and Bronn should have been standing next to Randyll and Dickon Tarly in that scene.
Jon to Dany: "I wish you good fortune in the wars to come, your Grace.’
The same words that Ser Arthur Dayne spoke to young Ned immediately before Jon was born. Minus the your grace part
Sam isn’t a maester yet so he hasn’t renounced anything as far as that goes; the maesters keep calling him “Tarly” instead of Samwell (maesters abandon their surnames). And we never did get an explanation as to why the Citadel was to oddly tolerant of him having a de facto wife & child, even providing them with some pretty nice living quarters. :dubious:
Samwell turned into quite the little thief, eh?
The rowing the boat line was hilarious.
That Cersei, she’s chilling. “Don’t ever betray me again.”
Jorah sure noticed Jon and his Auntie Dany making goo-goo eyes at each other.
Fucking Littlefinger.
Cannot wait for next week to see what happens north of the wall. I wonder if The Hound will regale Jon with stories of Arya and The Hound’s Road Trip. I don’t think so, though. He isn’t the talkative type.
Cannot wait to see what happens north of the wall. I’m sure at least one of my favorite characters is gonna die.
Sam is heading north, I think. Will Gilly be the one to break the news to Jon?
After all the discussion last week, I really thought the note was going to be related to the assassination attempt on Bran (implicating Littlefinger in it). But why would he want to get rid of the note that Sansa wrote to Robb?